I hope you know it was my "like" that put your last fit into double digits.
That is the main (though not the only) point of rise measurement - to define where on your waist they're going to sit. Ideally, the amount of sag should be the same on all trousers (as much as you prefer for comfort), and if you like them to sit on the same point of your waist they should always have the same rise. I tolerate a wide range of "waist positions", but if a RTW pair has too high of a rise even for me, I just won't buy it, rather than have it sag, which I think looks sloppy. Once you have found your perfect measurements, both inseam and outseam should stay fixed. Outseam/inseam balance is also useful to correct for bow leggedness or knock knees...
BTW, I'm not implying you have this problem on your last fit - I think a lower button stance on the jacket would help more than less sagging on the trousers, but that's a different issue.
In Stitches your ensembles are great! I like these pieces. They are very clean with a touch of pizzaz (I know I spelled that wrong as hell).Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Hey, ******* sir. Spoiler your posts if they're like that.
I don't wear socks with loafers and chinos. Or rather, I wear the invisible socks. But, that's a casual setting.
Those shoes and the lack of socks, with that, is kind of an abomination. Which is a shame since the rest of the fit is so good. But you might as well wear an orange polka dot tie and call it, "your thing" as well. It makes just as much sense, man.
Derek may wear lapel pins (I haven't seen any) but his fits are true to the theme from what I can tell. Not this, evening party/slumber party thing I see.
In all fairness, if the pants were cut lower on the first fit - I would like it with no socks just fine.
Here is today's fit. Deeper colors. I think the shoes and tie are pretty bold but not too matchy matchy I hope. Those collar points need to be longer. Pants could probably be .25" longer.
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For comparison in color depth, fit, and jacket proportions here is a similar fit from last week:Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)