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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post


If you're not interested in feedback on what you're wearing, then probably is best that you quit here. Just because a jacket is sold without pants it doesn't make it an odd jacket. But, even if it did, it doesn't change the appeal of what you've combined here. I'll repeat my questions:

Does this really seem harmonious to you? Or even pleasingly discordant?

That´s the point: I have no problems with criticism. But only say: "Hey thats not a good look" or ask me question is not a real criticism.
Do you really think I choice that combo if I answered both questions with "No"?

So what makes the discordant for you? Which parts will you change for a more harmonious or pleasingly discordant look?
post #54842 of 78723
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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post

If there is every single word critically observed, it´s better for me to quit here.

Style is not only a thing to dress well, it´s also to deal with each other well.

I think people have been pretty even (and accurate) with their comments. You reject and argue with everything. The purpose of this thread is to receive constructive criticism, not to say everything looks great. If you don't want that, you're right that you probably shouldn't post in here. It's a shame though, because you obviously have components to it together some very nice fits but, like virtually everyone, you could use some work on fit and combinations.
post #54843 of 78723
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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post


If you're not interested in feedback on what you're wearing, then probably is best that you quit here. Just because a jacket is sold without pants it doesn't make it an odd jacket. But, even if it did, it doesn't change the appeal of what you've combined here. I'll repeat my questions:

Does this really seem harmonious to you? Or even pleasingly discordant?

That´s the point: I have no problems with criticism. But only say: "Hey thats not a good look" or ask me question is not a real criticism.
Do you really think I choice that combo if I answered both questions with "No"?

So what makes the discordant for you? Which parts will you change for a more harmonious look?

The useful critique is that the jacket looks like an orphaned suit jacket and that such a look doesn't work. I didn't merely say that I didn't like it. As for the lack of harmony, the combination of the checked shirt with seersucker pants is jarring and unpleasant. I asked you because sometimes we put together things and, with the benefit of posting the picture, time, and some feedback, we can see things differently. Apparently you do not. Which is fine, but I doubt you will find many who will agree with your assessment of the combination.

For example, I have posted combinations about which I am unsure. Sometimes I become more convinced of the rightness, and other times I conclude I've missed the target.
post #54844 of 78723
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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post


If there is every single word critically observed, it´s better for me to quit here.

Style is not only a thing to dress well, it´s also to deal with each other well.

We are just suggesting that it's not a good look. I don't think we should explain what constitutes a nice odd jacket everytime we say that, as there's plenty of info in the forum.

 

But to make things short, it looks like an orphaned suit jacket because it is solid grey, and has no rusticating features to help it look more like an odd jacket (patch pockets, throat latch, etc). Even if it did, it would need to be blue to look like a blazer.

 

If not dark blue/navy, odd jackets are better off with a pattern, preferably bold enough to distinguish it from a suit. Subtle patterns like a glen check with low contrast are common for suitings rather than odd jackets. Pinstripes and chalk stripes are usually suitings too. And worsted wool is usually reserved for suits, unless it comes in a bold pattern, wich could make a nice spring odd jacket.

 

In reality, it's much more complex than that (think camel hair odd coats, etc.) , but it's a good starting point. I learned through my own mistakes and being critiqued here, and I'm sure I still dress like crap - but at least I think I do have a much more solid foundation than when I first came here.

post #54845 of 78723
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Originally Posted by RDiaz View Post

We are just suggesting that it's not a good look. I don't think we should explain what constitutes a nice odd jacket everytime we say that, as there's plenty of info in the forum.

 

But to make things short, it looks like an orphaned suit jacket because it is solid grey, and has no rusticating features to help it look more like an odd jacket (patch pockets, throat latch, etc). Even if it did, it would need to be blue to look like a blazer.

 

If not dark blue/navy, odd jackets are better off with a pattern, preferably bold enough to distinguish it from a suit. Subtle patterns like a glen check with low contrast are common for suitings rather than odd jackets. Pinstripes and chalk stripes are usually suitings too. And worsted wool is usually reserved for suits, unless it comes in a bold pattern, wich could make a nice spring odd jacket.

 

In reality, it's much more complex than that (think camel hair odd coats, etc.) , but it's a good starting point. I learned through my own mistakes and being critiqued here, and I'm sure I still dress like crap - but at least I think I do have a much more solid foundation than when I first came here.

Thank for your advice.

 

The problem are probably the fotos I made. The colour is not grey it´s a light blue. Jacket has no solid pattern, it´s what we call in german "Pfauenauge" which means "peacock butterfly". I don´t know if that the right name in english. Here is a foto from the pattern and colour:

 

 

So thats why I think it´s a odd jacket and I react a little bit astonished when you call it "orphaned suit jacket".

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Just got a new SC, so I thought it would be worth my first post here. Apologies for the photo quality, selfies with an iPhone are not that easy.

 

 

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post #54847 of 78723

Has this thread been moved to AAAC or something? What the fuck.

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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post

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Originally Posted by RDiaz View Post

We are just suggesting that it's not a good look. I don't think we should explain what constitutes a nice odd jacket everytime we say that, as there's plenty of info in the forum.

But to make things short, it looks like an orphaned suit jacket because it is solid grey, and has no rusticating features to help it look more like an odd jacket (patch pockets, throat latch, etc). Even if it did, it would need to be blue to look like a blazer.

If not dark blue/navy, odd jackets are better off with a pattern, preferably bold enough to distinguish it from a suit. Subtle patterns like a glen check with low contrast are common for suitings rather than odd jackets. Pinstripes and chalk stripes are usually suitings too. And worsted wool is usually reserved for suits, unless it comes in a bold pattern, wich could make a nice spring odd jacket.

In reality, it's much more complex than that (think camel hair odd coats, etc.) , but it's a good starting point. I learned through my own mistakes and being critiqued here, and I'm sure I still dress like crap - but at least I think I do have a much more solid foundation than when I first came here.
Thank for your advice.

The problem are probably the fotos I made. The colour is not grey it´s a light blue. Jacket has no solid pattern, it´s what we call in german "Pfauenauge" which means "peacock butterfly". I don´t know if that the right name in english. Here is a foto from the pattern and colour:




So thats why I think it´s a odd jacket and I react a little bit astonished when you call it "orphaned suit jacket".

Most here would still call that fabric a suiting, albeit for a casual suit, but I now understand where you're coming from. So, I'll amend my comment and say just that I don't think it works in the combination you've chosen.
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What I wore this morning, linen shirt, linen tie and linen square:

AppleMark

 

The cotton SC was a little too warm though, so I changed into a linen one. Do you guys think this SC works with this shirt? I'm having my doubts about it.

AppleMark

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

I thought I'd post a 'real' picture here. We can't all look perfect all the time. This is what I look like when I leave the office at 10 on a Friday:

 

I thought I was the only one posting crumpled, sweaty, real-world end of the hot working day snaps on here.  And then you do it looking all tidy and cool nevertheless.  Asshole. :)

 

Edit: re. your last post, I love the first combo.  In the second, I don't think the PS is the issue: I don't like that strong stripe on the shirt with the PoW check.  If the shirt were solid light blue, that cream PS would set it off beautifully IMO.

 

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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post


That´s the point: I have no problems with criticism. But only say: "Hey thats not a good look" or ask me question is not a real criticism.
Do you really think I choice that combo if I answered both questions with "No"?

So what makes the discordant for you? Which parts will you change for a more harmonious or pleasingly discordant look?

 

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Originally Posted by DonCologne View Post

Thank for your advice.

 

The problem are probably the fotos I made. The colour is not grey it´s a light blue. Jacket has no solid pattern, it´s what we call in german "Pfauenauge" which means "peacock butterfly". I don´t know if that the right name in english. Here is a foto from the pattern and colour:

 

 

So thats why I think it´s a odd jacket and I react a little bit astonished when you call it "orphaned suit jacket".

 

 

Be cool, Don.  Always remember that people tend to speak more stridently and with less nuance when rattling off comments on the internet - getting offended is never useful.  And nobody's even actually been rude to you yet!  Every forum has its inadequates who vent their frustrations by trying to get a rise out of others.  But you've had nothing like that; keep some perspective! If "that jacket looks like an orphan" is the worst you get, really you're practically a favourite relative.  I hate to think what you'd feel if you did get any actual troll comments (and I've had a few!).  Keep your dignity, dude, nobody's out to get you.-

 

So, constructive: is that really the same jacket?  It looks so much darker and muddier in the pic.  I like the pattern.  Anyway, that's not the point: as has already been pointed out, there's a disconnect in tone between top and bottom.  Some specifics:

 

- You had the nuts to try a classic fit with bright green trousers.  That's not going to work all the time, so well done for rolling it out there.

 

- As has already been said, the structure of the jacket is very formal.  It says dressed down cavalry officer or gentleman farmer.  It is casual, but not laid back.  Those shoulders are standing to attention and possibly carrying a large shotgun, which is a look I like a lot.  But the trousers are lolling in a deck chair with a glass of Pimm's.  That stiffness is what's making it look like part of a suit.  But if you were wearing it with sharply pressed grey flannel trousers in September and a gleaming pair of tan longwings, it wouldn't - because all those other parts would be projecting the same image.

 

- The colours and tones of the jackethave the same conflict: I personally think the little check on the shirt and the solid green trousers are fine: very summery, very relaxed, a little foppish.  If you took the jacket off and were wearing sockless loafers (!) I'd be put in mind of some of the more celebrated posters in this thread.  But the jacket is saying countryside, and the trousers and shirt are saying ocean cruise liner or the bar at the marina.

 

- The shoes have those earthy country tones too, although as they're spectators, they could work with this outfit.  I'd say if you were wearing an unlined cream or white seersucker or linen jacket instead, the rest might just sing out the way you intended.  If you're going to be a summer dandy, go all the way.  This is half and half right now, which I think was the point all along.

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Monkeyface, those are very nice.
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Originally Posted by Bluepilot View Post

Just got a new SC, so I thought it would be worth my first post here. Apologies for the photo quality, selfies with an iPhone are not that easy.
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So, this needs quite a bit of work. The SC is fine, but what you have paired it with is quite a mess:
  • Please cinch that tie knot down. Or tie a smaller knot. Right now it dwarfs everything else. That tie also looks very, very wide, though I can't tell if that's just the back blade peeking out.
  • That PS does not go anywhere near that tie.
  • Tie is way too formal for the SC.
  • Crazy mix of formal and informal makes the whole thing terribly incoherent. Rustic SC, Jeans. Those are fine. Then you pair it with a white shirt, formal-ish tie, and PS. The whole thing just looks like a mess.
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X post from Challenge - 2X2 stripes and dots
Steven Hitchcock pin stripe, Sean O'Flynn butcher stripe, dotted unknown pS and tie:bigstar:

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The champ is here. Ignoring the pattern challenge clarification; a rare miss on the patterns...thinking solid white shirt shirt with the featured tie and a white linen PS square. Fit is unreal per uze. 

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

I thought I was the only one posting crumpled, sweaty, real-world end of the hot working day snaps on here.  And then you do it looking all tidy and cool nevertheless.  Asshole. :)

 

Edit: re. your last post, I love the first combo.  In the second, I don't think the PS is the issue: I don't like that strong stripe on the shirt with the PoW check.  If the shirt were solid light blue, that cream PS would set it off beautifully IMO.

 

Haha, I guess it just comes naturally to me. Believe me though, I didn't feel like I was tidy and cool at the moment, more like happy that I finally got to go home and relax.

 

Yeah, I was having my doubts about the striped shirt with the PoW check. The patterns are scaled differently, so I should work. However, I've only started wearing patterned shirts a while ago, so this whole pattern mixing thing is new to me. I used to be a solid light blue and white shirts only kind of guy. How bad is the outfit, on a scale from awesome to train wreck?

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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Monkeyface, those are very nice.

Cheers, aravenel!

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Honestly, I just don't dig broader stripes on shirts that much.  It's not "bad" at all; I'm overstating a bit.  I just think the size of a PoW check makes it conflict a bit with stripes of most kinds.  Could just be me.  Love the colour combo though: light blue, grey, navy, cream...hard to top.

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