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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post

Also, I often get complaints about my shoes, but no one ever offers suggestions about what I should wear instead (not that I would listen).  I started posting on SF to get suggestions as how I can improve how I dress.  I've been told I do many things wrong, but have gotten few suggestions about how to improve.  Do make suggestions otherwise the commentary isn't very useful.

In the case of these shoes, I suspect the objection is that they just look tired and run down. I hate boat shoes, but leaving that aside, they don't seem out of context here.

Also, a bit of free advice: If you have beef, just name names and get it out there. The "you know who you are" stuff is just silly.
post #54392 of 78723
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AAS, have you ever considered buying longer jackets? Yours always look too short for my eye.

Yes, but I'm ok with the length of most of my jackets.  There are two ways jacket length is usually determined: arm length and pant/seat rise.  What I usually look for is a length that covers the rise of my pants which my jackets do.  My arms are long for my height.  I take a 34.5" sleeve, but I'm only 5'10".  By the arm length standard my jackets should be an inch or so longer.  I've been trying to document my sport coats.  You can see the majority of them here.  My sport coats.  

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In the case of these shoes, I suspect the objection is that they just look tired and run down. I hate boat shoes, but leaving that aside, they don't seem out of context here.

Also, a bit of free advice: If you have beef, just name names and get it out there. The "you know who you are" stuff is just silly.

I'd have to go back and look through comments to name names.  I too lazy for that.  And "I'm vegetarian.  I don't need the beef."  

post #54394 of 78723
Ask.....
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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post

 I've been told I do many things wrong, but have gotten few suggestions about how to improve.  Do make suggestions otherwise the commentary isn't very useful.  

And thou shalt receive.....
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Originally Posted by timotune View Post

AAS, have you ever considered buying longer jackets? Yours always look too short for my eye.

but wait....let me tell you why your opinion is wrong....

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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post

Yes, but I'm ok with the length of most of my jackets.  There are two ways jacket length is usually determined: arm length and pant/seat rise.  What I usually look for is a length that covers the rise of my pants which my jackets do.  My arms are long for my height.  I take a 34.5" sleeve, but I'm only 5'10".  By the arm length standard my jackets should be an inch or so longer.  I've been trying to document my sport coats.  You can see the majority of them here.  
My sport coats
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no offense...but i think this is why most people dont bother providing much good feedback anymore...as soon as they do, its dismissed by "well this is how I like it...youre wrong....i dont care what you think"
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Dear AAS,

 

I hope I haven't offended you with one or two comments about shoes over recent weeks.  Aside from my obvious ranting about not liking socklessness with suits (or in general, much), I suspect that I might be one of those who's said "get better shoes" without adding something more helpful.  I do generally try to be constructive, so I apologise if I have failed to be.

 

OK, I don't like the two-tone shirt, the almost-matching jacket and trews (although if they were matching, it's nice!), buttonhole doo-dah's, socklessness or boat shoes.  But that's all so predictable.  And also, you're clearly a guy who's pretty comfortable in his own skin and has some presence and personality, and I bet out in the real world of non-style-blog-reading humans, people tell you every day that you look awesome.  Amazing as it might seem to some, I can relate!

 

So, constructive: you're right that if there's one place for sockless boat shoes, it's on a boat.  And SB's right that if they were in better shape, it would make a difference.  Maybe it's because I like shoes a lot, that I sometimes feel it's an oversight to add shoes to an outfit as a secondary item.*  Anyway, in your case it's like this: shape.  Whether they're cheap or expensive, country-casual or city-formal, shoes need to have some structure and shape to look good.  Whether and what socks you wear, how you combine colours and whatever, are different issues but the form is fundamental.  A well constructed shoe with an elegant last shape to me is the crowning glory of classic men's dress.

 

There are so many threads on this side of the forum about shoes, either brands, affiliates or just more fun threads like this.  And this.  So take a look, maybe, at this for inspiration.  And price-wise, you could go anywhere from this up to this.  Styleforum very much loves this.  But let me take a leap here: you seem to like a striking style, and your shoes are mostly on the heavier side.  Which is cool.  Therefore, I'd suggest your true shoe love might lie here.  Go crazy.  Hope it works out. :) 

 

 

*It actually offends me when a web site lists shoes under "accessories" instead of in their own category.  I know, that's kind of tragic but whatever, we all have our failings!

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OK AAS, point taken.

Like Butch, I don't really like boat shoes but new looking boat shoes would match the crispness of your (non) suit. Bucks, or even navy canvas traditional sneakers could work, or something in suede with a rubber sole, etc..

Likewise I don't really like bit loafers but as I said before, new sharp looking bit loafers wouldn't be out of place with a lot of your fits. However frequently I seem to recall you wearing beat up, scruffy overly worn loose fitting bit loafers when again, a smooth polished pair would better match the formality of the rest of your rig.

Accepting your explanation of rain, those 'waterproof' shoes you posted badly let down an otherwise good looking photo. Are regular calf shoes so vulnerable to rain? I live in Houston where I don't have to commute by pavement or public transport so my shoes get little exposure to inclement weather.

This is all just IMO of course. There are MANY worse looking regular posters than you. I think what makes your pics so jarring is that everything else frequently comes together very well, so I feel like critiquing the shoes. Other people who look shit head to toe I can't be bothered to comment on!biggrin.gif

You have a good attitude towards critique. None of this is meant to be piling on, just contributing to the discussion!
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

Ask.....
And thou shalt receive.....
but wait....let me tell you why your opinion is wrong....
no offense...but i think this is why most people dont bother providing much good feedback anymore...as soon as they do, its dismissed by "well this is how I like it...youre wrong....i dont care what you think"

Ok and let me tell you why you're wrong as well. biggrin.gif 

 

I have opinions.  Timo has opinions.  I agree with his opinion on my jacket length.  One cannot have a wrong opinion.  I'm not throwing out my old stuff though.  A tailor can't lengthen my jackets.  Yes.  I've asked.  Somethings are purely aesthetic.  No break, full break, etc.  I usually really appreciate it when we (i.e. SF) have open conversations about issues such as jacket length, sleeve length, etc.  It usually gives me new insight on my opinion and forces me to think about it in ways I may not have before.  Whether I change or not is not important.  

 

The next time Timo makes a post, I will pay attention to how long his jacket is.  I'll think about how that compares to my jacket length.  I'll think about which one I like the most and make future buying decisions based on that.  If he hadn't raised the question, I would have gone on buying jackets with my current standard in mind.  Bottomline, he challenged one of my beliefs.  I appreciate him taking the time to say something at all.  Thank you, Timo.  

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Ok I'm going to say it.

 

Mimo.. are you on a 'nice' kick or something? Mid-year resolution?

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Wait, when did Timo become God's Dick of the forum? He was getting hammered for a long time about his short, tight fashion-forward suits.
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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post

Ok and let me tell you why you're wrong as well. biggrin.gif
 

NOOOOO!!!!!! foo.gif
post #54401 of 78723
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

no offense...but i think this is why most people dont bother providing much good feedback anymore...as soon as they do, its dismissed by "well this is how I like it...youre wrong....i dont care what you think"

this is pretty much correct. if a poster gains a rep for dismissing peoples suggestions by saying, "yeah i know that, but i like it my way", the constructive criticism will peter out fast.

on the other hand, if you try to consider, and ever go so far as to incorporate peoples advice, there is no shortage of help to be had. for example, i used to dress super shitty, and then i took some of the peoples advice, and now i only dress medium shitty. GREAT SUCCESS!!
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Wait, when did Timo become God's Dick of the forum? He was getting hammered for a long time about his short, tight fashion-forward suits.

bt dubs, did you like my suit? aside from the patch pockets i think its right up your alley.
post #54403 of 78723
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

this is pretty much correct. if a poster gains a rep for dismissing peoples suggestions by saying, "yeah i know that, but i like it my way", the constructive criticism will peter out fast.

on the other hand, if you try to consider, and ever go so far as to incorporate peoples advice, there is no shortage of help to be had. for example, i used to dress super shitty, and then i took some of the peoples advice, and now i only dress medium shitty. GREAT SUCCESS!!

And with more progress, you will reach Medium Well Shitty. And all shall revel in your achievements of sartorial fortitude!

Love you baby.
post #54404 of 78723
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

bt dubs, did you like my suit? aside from the patch pockets i think its right up your alley.

I liked the color.
post #54405 of 78723
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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post


I have opinions.  Timo has opinions.  I agree with his opinion on my jacket length.  One cannot have a wrong opinion.  I'm not throwing out my old stuff though.  A tailor can't lengthen my jackets.  Yes.  I've asked.  Somethings are purely aesthetic.  No break, full break, etc.  I usually really appreciate it when we (i.e. SF) have open conversations about issues such as jacket length, sleeve length, etc.  It usually gives me new insight on my opinion and forces me to think about it in ways I may not have before.  Whether I change or not is not important.  

The next time Timo makes a post, I will pay attention to how long his jacket is.  I'll think about how that compares to my jacket length.  I'll think about which one I like the most and make future buying decisions based on that.  If he hadn't raised the question, I would have gone on buying jackets with my current standard in mind.  Bottomline, he challenged one of my beliefs.  I appreciate him taking the time to say something at all.  Thank you, Timo.  

but none of this was said in your reply....quite the opposite really. you told him why his critique was invalid.

not singling you out, but this happens a ton, and im sure ive been guilty of it as well. Seems everyone has an excuse to why a critique is wrong.
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