HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

bourbonbasted · Apr 11, 2012

Holdfast said:
On the more general point of jeans & tie/blazer, I do think it can work, theoretically.

I think it helps to be young. Young with a degree of studied or educated carelessness. I won't use the word "sprezz" here or any of that nonsense, but I do think the guys that pull it off well are a little rough around the edges and have a degree of eccentricity to them. Almost as if jeans are the only thing they could wear with the look.

I think Sid's employees do it well:

The unstructured SC (which is a 3-roll-2 peak lapel, so let that simmer on its own for a minute), knit tie, floppy collar, hoof-pick belt and playful slippers all seem to echo a laid back aesthetic. Also, everything here has a more crunchy/unfinished texture. No shiny silks, no crisp edges, no mirror-shine polishes.

I fear here (an other places) people try and pair a more structured, conservative SC or orphan that is made to be worn with formal slacks or as part of a suit with their jeans. The point to jeans is that they should be paired with equally casual accompaniments. It isn't the same relationship shared by odd trousers and jackets that can easily be mixed and matched.

Blasphima · Apr 11, 2012

Wore this DB for the first time today and recieved several compliments.
What does Styleforvm say, yay or nay?

oldog/oldtrix · Apr 11, 2012

SpooPoker said:
I'd love to hear pant suggestions for this

Hadn't thought to post today's throwback to the winter we never had, but since you asked:

clapeyron · Apr 11, 2012

bourbonbasted said:

What is he doing to the shirt sleeves in his wardrobe

RoddyMac · Apr 11, 2012

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holy crap.

bourbonbasted · Apr 11, 2012

clapeyron said:
What is he doing to the shirt sleeves in his wardrobe

Picture was taken at the store Sid Mashburn in Atlanta. I can't completely tell, but they appear to be spring/summer linen or loose weave cotton shirts. Either way they are casual shirts and I have no problem with rolling my sleeves in casual shirts. Especially when it's over 100F outside. Granted I wouldn't hang them like that, but it is a retail environment.

oldog/oldtrix · Apr 11, 2012

bourbonbasted said:

clapeyron said:
What is he doing to the shirt sleeves in his wardrobe

It's not his wardrobe. It's a store display designed to show that the shirts sold there have functioning sleeve buttons. I know; I grew up in men's retail.

Off My Rack · Apr 11, 2012

clapeyron said:
What is he doing to the shirt sleeves in his wardrobe

Looks like that photo was taken at Sid Mashburn in Atlanta. The front of the store, where they keep their casual wear, has all of the shirts hung with the sleeves rolled up. I suppose it is done to emphasize that those are the casual shirts.e

edit: looks like I'm about 30 seconds and 2 posts too slow. Although I wonder, oldog/oldtrix - what shirts don't have functioning sleeve buttons? Please excuse my ignorance, as I did not grow up in retail.

oldog/oldtrix · Apr 11, 2012

bourbonbasted said:
I think it helps to be young.

And not just for wearing jeans with a coat and tie. Anyway and notwithstanding, can it be done at 65? Too bad I didn't take a photo for posterity, but the day I wore this combo I switched the trousers and socks for a pair of old 501s and no socks before getting on a plane for a long flight:

black_umbrella · Apr 11, 2012

oldog/oldtrix said:
And not just for wearing jeans with a coat and tie. Anyway and notwithstanding, can it be done at 65? Too bad I didn't take a photo for posterity, but the day I wore this combo I switched the trousers and socks for a pair of old 501s and no socks before getting on a plane for a long flight:

did you keep the tie?

oldog/oldtrix said:
It's not his wardrobe. It's a store display designed to show that the shirts sold there have functioning sleeve buttons. I know; I grew up in men's retail.

Wait!? somebody sells shirts without working sleeve buttons?

Kid Nickels · Apr 11, 2012

anginaprinzmetal said:
Let me answer to the two of you... why jeans with tie and jacket ? because when done right it DOES look good!!! Anden, has consistently posted good stuff, and this last one doesn't disappoint...
Go back about 50 years and Andy Warhol was already doing the jeans and tie + blazer very well...

+1 to Warhol
not great SF "fit" pix... hard to find good ones, but for reference....

Holdfast said:
Without meaning to pick on Anden specifically, how can you really tell without seeing the overall look? I find it really hard to visualise whole outfits based on a handful of close-up shots. Could be good, could be really jarring. Very difficult to tell (my hunch is actually the latter, but I can't be sure and wouldn't have commented on it at all without the context of the broader discussion we're having).

On the more general point of jeans & tie/blazer, I do think it can work, theoretically.

But it requires a much higher level of aesthetic judgement than more straightforward looks simply because of the disparate cultural messages of the individual elements involved. If you like, the Difficulty Multiplier is higher. Most people attempting it fail as a result of that, including myself. I lack sufficient familiarity/skill with the language of one of the elements (the denim) to execute the overall look well, and also lack sufficient interest to attempt to really learn it for the future. Given the difficulty, unless you're really talented at doing this kind of look or alternatively, really want to devote yourself to mastering it, it's probably a look best avoided. I do like seeing examples of it being done well, though. I've no objection to it on a theoretical level.

agreed... I like your analysis of this he HF... but omg, he's wearing loafers! with jeans! surely the Anti-Christ is not far behind! :stirpot:

oldog/oldtrix · Apr 11, 2012

Off My Rack said:
I wonder, oldog/oldtrix - what shirts don't have functioning sleeve buttons?

Look at the shirts on the middle shelf in the photo above. At first blush, it appears that they are neatly folded to make optimal use of the display cabinet. But don't be fooled. It's all a clever ploy to hide the fact that the sleeves are stitched closed and have only faux buttons and button holes.

Willin · Apr 11, 2012

black_umbrella said:
did you keep the tie?
Wait!? somebody sells shirts without working sleeve buttons?

I do believe he meant functioning forearm sleeve buttons. You know, for casual shirts so that you can roll them up.

bourbonbasted · Apr 11, 2012

oldog/oldtrix said:
Anyway and notwithstanding, can it be done at 65?

Same philosophy I outlined, different age bracket. Though I do think older guys look cooler with open collars and jeans. Makes them look a bit younger:

Kid Nickels · Apr 11, 2012

oldog/oldtrix said:
It's all a clever ploy to hide the fact that the sleeves are stitched closed and have only faux buttons and button holes.

faux buttons and button holes... wtf is a faux button? it looks and acts like a button but in reality is NOT a button? :puzzled:

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