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Originally Posted by twistoffat View Post

I´m confused. Please tell me why a dark shirt is not a good thing?

Nothing is wrong with a dark shirt by itself, perhaps in the context of a club or something. With a tie and jacket, it murders the contrast you generally need for those elements to look good.

If you are wearing a tie for business reasons, a dark shirt violates business dress norms. If you are wearing a tie for aesthetic reasons, then why pick a background that renders it either invisible or faded? Either way, dark shirt is a no-go.

I'm guessing the same principle applies in explaining why light ties are so much harder to pull off than dark ties.

I suppose you could wear a dark shirt with a light tie and a light jacket and still get the same aesthetic contrast...but it would be an inversion of what is seen as standard and people would probably register it as being very odd.
post #44117 of 78723
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Zytho, unfortunately, this jacket doesn't fit you particularly well. It is far too short, and looks a bit small in the chest.

Also, that looks like a very summery jacket... Is it linen?

Also, it's hard to tell without a full body shot, but it looks like those trousers taper a bit too much for you--they make your hips look overly wide in comparison to your legs.

Cheers, yea it's a linen wool mix I think so should hold its shape ok. I think it's the photo as it does fit! It's a little too long if anything - it reaches the ends of my fingers.

I'll concede the trousers...but I do have fat hips lol.
post #44118 of 78723
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post


Nothing is wrong with a dark shirt by itself, perhaps in the context of a club or something. With a tie and jacket, it murders the contrast you generally need for those elements to look good.

If you are wearing a tie for business reasons, a dark shirt violates business dress norms. If you are wearing a tie for aesthetic reasons, then why pick a background that renders iteither iinvisible or faded? Either way, dark shirt is a no-go.

I'm guessing the same principle applies in explaining why light ties are so much harder to pull off than dark ties.

I suppose you could wear a dark shirt with a light tie and a light jacket and still get the same aesthetic contrast...but it would be an inversion of what is seen as standard and people would probably register it as being very odd.

+1 Very well said.

post #44119 of 78723
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Originally Posted by Zythophile View Post

My attem at trying to make the weather warmer! Thoughts? Sorry about the quality of first image - photobucket being rubbish.



 

 

Don't be offended, but I think that you should take your time to read more before trying to post a fit again.

Some recommendations: http://www.styleforum.net/t/309586/whnay-s-good-taste-thread/0_30http://www.styleforum.net/t/317329/jrds-guide-to-coherent-sportcoat-combinations , http://www.styleforum.net/t/177616/on-pants

 

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Originally Posted by twistoffat View Post

I´m confused. Please tell me why a dark shirt is not a good thing?

 

Because it's a classic menswear custom, shirts must be in a lighter color than the accompanying jacket.

post #44120 of 78723
You don´t need to recommend anything. Unfortunately the iphone pics are not the best and the navy shirt and tie look a bit black. The shirt and tie are not that dark.
I don´t know if you are familiar with the traditional Jil Sander navy blue. If you are thats it. I agree with you on Black shirts. Unless you have a tan they make you look pale and are limited in their diversity. That said in relation to dark shirts and navy or black or grey. When is dark too dark?
post #44121 of 78723
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Nothing is wrong with a dark shirt by itself, perhaps in the context of a club or something. With a tie and jacket, it murders the contrast you generally need for those elements to look good.

If you are wearing a tie for business reasons, a dark shirt violates business dress norms. If you are wearing a tie for aesthetic reasons, then why pick a background that renders it either invisible or faded? Either way, dark shirt is a no-go.

I'm guessing the same principle applies in explaining why light ties are so much harder to pull off than dark ties.

I suppose you could wear a dark shirt with a light tie and a light jacket and still get the same aesthetic contrast...but it would be an inversion of what is seen as standard and people would probably register it as being very odd.

+1. Well said.
post #44122 of 78723
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Originally Posted by Zythophile View Post

Cheers, yea it's a linen wool mix I think so should hold its shape ok. I think it's the photo as it does fit! It's a little too long if anything - it reaches the ends of my fingers.

I'll concede the trousers...but I do have fat hips lol.

Nothing wrong with fat hips, we can't control our body shape. We can control how we dress to emphasize our best points, and de-emphasize our less favorable aspects.

In this case, the wide hips plus severe taper makes you look pear-shaped. Not a good thing. Some trousers with less taper would not have this effect and would be much more elegant.

Just because something is trendy (skinny trousers) doesn't mean they work for your body type--don't try to squeeze yourself into something that doesn't work for your body type!
post #44123 of 78723
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Nothing is wrong with a dark shirt by itself, perhaps in the context of a club or something. With a tie and jacket, it murders the contrast you generally need for those elements to look good.

If you are wearing a tie for business reasons, a dark shirt violates business dress norms. If you are wearing a tie for aesthetic reasons, then why pick a background that renders it either invisible or faded? Either way, dark shirt is a no-go.

I'm guessing the same principle applies in explaining why light ties are so much harder to pull off than dark ties.

I suppose you could wear a dark shirt with a light tie and a light jacket and still get the same aesthetic contrast...but it would look like shit.

FTFY

post #44124 of 78723
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Originally Posted by twistoffat View Post

When is dark too dark?

When you no longer have a crisp contrast between either the jacket or the tie.
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Edit: Removed


Edited by Hknsm - 1/28/13 at 9:40am
post #44126 of 78723
This is fuller in the chest and wider in the shoulders than what I prefer but oh well. It needs a pressing too.

RL Purple Label (Chester Barrie) flannel suit
CEGO shirt
Panta tie
C&J wholecuts (I forget the model)

Not pictured: RL Polo cashmere topcoat


post #44127 of 78723
Very nice, Conne.
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Thanks. I actually like the drape on this suit.

Mariano knows how to do drape.

post #44129 of 78723
First time posting in this thread.



For context: wearing this out to a casual dinner with friends and visiting a cocktail bar afterward (the kind where bartenders call themselves "mixologists" and wear tweed waistcoats and bowties).

A few self critiques: could use a different pocket square, maybe moleskin or cords would be better than cotton drill.
post #44130 of 78723
And add more length, because cottons trousers will rumple and become even more shorter.
Honestly, I'm done with cotton trousers for that reason.
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