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Originally Posted by upr_crust View Post

I would agree with your assessment that the button stance could have stood to be a bit lower - 3 cm would have made a world of difference - but as it stands, the jacket looks fine, and it is a proper length for you, either by the position of your thumb joints to the hem, or to the fact that it (I will posit, since I can't see behind you) covers your rear correctly. A shorter jacket would have looked much worse on you.

As I said in an earlier post, my over all impression was that the jacket looked to be on the short side. After having stared at the photo a little more, I think it's the short "top" (the part above the buttoning point) that causes the odd look. So even if the jacket is of proper length, the top/bottom "balance" (in lack of a better description) is off because of the high buttoning point and messes up the image of the jacket as a whole. But trust me, I have all kinds of sympathies for problems like this as I am tall (as in very tall) and run into these problems all the time when trying OTR suits/SCs.

Keeping my fingers crossed that your MTM works out biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post
personally, i have never been a huge fan of the critique, "this is nice, BUT, would look better with different color PS/pants/socks/underwear......"
imo, many times, if it looks good, it looks good. maybe the person has a certain item, and they want to wear it. or they got sick of gray/brown pants and wanted a new color. its like saying, you look good, but it would be even better if you were wearing a totally different outfit that also looks good, but might be better (well that is an exaggeration).

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with saying to someone that one element of their otherwise perfectly formed outfit is off - indeed that is often the most helpful thing to me - sometimes I really didn't realise that the trousers I had chosen looked even worse than I had throught. Okay, so the fact that sometimes we already know that this is a problem might make it annoying to have it pointed out, but if we don't want anyone to say anything, why post in this thread at all? And even if you or I don't think we need to be told - and personally, I'm not sure I can claim that - it certainly helps other people to understand what works and what doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Orgetorix View Post

Going to a wedding this afternoon. What do you guys think - no vest, matching vest, or odd vest? I love this gray DB vest, but never get to wear it, and not sure if it works here. 'Tis a bit snug, TBH. Tie is a gray glen check.
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No vest wins by a mile.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

personally, i have never been a huge fan of the critique, "this is nice, BUT, would look better with different color PS/pants/socks/underwear......"
imo, many times, if it looks good, it looks good. maybe the person has a certain item, and they want to wear it. or they got sick of gray/brown pants and wanted a new color. its like saying, you look good, but it would be even better if you were wearing a totally different outfit that also looks good, but might be better (well that is an exaggeration).
no hate, ivar, just something i wanted to get of my chesticles, and i used your post as a soap box.
/rant

I can see how this kind of criticism could be seen as trying to impose some rigid, hidebound standard of dress (or worse, trying to impose your own, totally arbitrary standard of dress), and I generally think it's ill-advised to try to shoehorn people into dressing in a way that makes them uncomfortable. I do think, however, that constructive criticism has merit in that it often: 1. Spotlights "blind spots" in your way of thinking about how you dress; 2. Challenges you to think through your position on whatever is being discussed, forcing you to replace passive choices with active ones.
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Originally Posted by Pingson View Post

As I said in an earlier post, my over all impression was that the jacket looked to be on the short side. After having stared at the photo a little more, I think it's the short "top" (the part above the buttoning point) that causes the odd look.

Definitely. The jacket length looks spot on.
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

I can see how this kind of criticism could be seen as trying to impose some rigid, hidebound standard of dress (or worse, trying to impose your own, totally arbitrary standard of dress), and I generally think it's ill-advised to try to shoehorn people into dressing in a way that makes them uncomfortable. I do think, however, that constructive criticism has merit in that it often: 1. Spotlights "blind spots" in your way of thinking about how you dress; 2. Challenges you to think through your position on whatever is being discussed, forcing you to replace passive choices with active ones.

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Awfully rainy day in Luxembourg! But I heard it was the same pretty much everywhere

 

 

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with saying to someone that one element of their otherwise perfectly formed outfit is off - indeed that is often the most helpful thing to me - sometimes I really didn't realise that the trousers I had chosen looked even worse than I had throught. Okay, so the fact that sometimes we already know that this is a problem might make it annoying to have it pointed out, but if we don't want anyone to say anything, why post in this thread at all? And even if you or I don't think we need to be told - and personally, I'm not sure I can claim that - it certainly helps other people to understand what works and what doesn't.
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

I can see how this kind of criticism could be seen as trying to impose some rigid, hidebound standard of dress (or worse, trying to impose your own, totally arbitrary standard of dress), and I generally think it's ill-advised to try to shoehorn people into dressing in a way that makes them uncomfortable. I do think, however, that constructive criticism has merit in that it often: 1. Spotlights "blind spots" in your way of thinking about how you dress; 2. Challenges you to think through your position on whatever is being discussed, forcing you to replace passive choices with active ones.

le sigh, i have no issue with constructive criticism.

big difference between an item being off/trousers that look worse than you thought, and trousers that look fine, but could arguably be replaced with a different color, to create a different outfit, that may arguable be better than the one presented.

im not saying people should not point out flaws in others fits, if people didnt do that for me i would never have improved. critiquing is important and an integral part of this forum. but as stated above, there is significant difference between something that is off, and something that is fine, but someone feels a different color of texture MIGHT be better. i think that is a rather simple distinction.

and im not even saying that pointing out that maybe another color/texture might be better is wrong. just that it should be framed in an appropriate way, and one should consider why the op went with the item he chose to, and to understand the distinction between a critique of an error, and a preference in style towards a fit that is indeed alright.
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Originally Posted by Fred49 View Post

I have it on very good authority that Spoo is well and that he has light bulbs burning.

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Originally Posted by VictorSFreturn View Post




Can we see a picture of your closet? You must have a crazy amount of clothes, shoes, briefcases, etc.
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Originally Posted by Orgetorix View Post

Going to a wedding this afternoon. What do you guys think - no vest, matching vest, or odd vest? I love this gray DB vest, but never get to wear it, and not sure if it works here. 'Tis a bit snug, TBH. Tie is a gray glen check.

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1. No vest
2. Odd vest
3. Matching vest

That said, the odd vest looks festive, and if it floats your boat, rock it.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post
and im not even saying that pointing out that maybe another color/texture might be better is wrong. just that it should be framed in an appropriate way, and one should consider why the op went with the item he chose to, and to understand the distinction between a critique of an error, and a preference in style towards a fit that is indeed alright.

 

I think you expect too much. In the WAYWRN threads, we have a series of pictures and basic information presented to us and we respond. There are always idiots, but most people do so constructively, politely and even with some generosity of spirit, but if you want people to understand why you chose something in particular, you'd have to tell us. It's our responsibility in posting to provide the level of information equivalent to the level of the response we want. If I post a fit pic in a grey jacket with a pair of burgundy slacks, I can't reasonably expect you to know that those are just the only clean trousers I had, or that I got dressed in the dark, or that my religious beliefs mandate the wearing of burgundy on Fridays, or that they belonged to my deceased father and it would have been his birthday today - unless I tell you.

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lol, yes that is true, but that was far from the brunt of the point i was making.

whatevs, no big deal, just something that slightly irks me. no worries.
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Victor, I've actually always wondered: who takes your pictures? Also, what camera/lens combination is it? They're generally fantastic.

 

I'd love to post full length pics, but my Seoul apartment is quite small, I lack a tripod, I don't have great natural lighting, and probably most importantly, I am too self-conscious to ask people to take pictures of me.

 

I am going out tomorrow though, so a full length picture will be forthcoming.

 

 

I remove my friend, sometimes someone else. Sometimes I shoot himself with a tripod.
 
It's not that hard. shog[1].gif
 
When the space is small, I do not pictures of a full-length in waist.
 
Equipment, which I often use this Canon 5D and 2 lenses: 135L 2.0 (most often) and 35L 1.4 (when there is little space to focus 135L)

Edited by VictorSFreturn - 11/2/12 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

I believe Manton's point was more that he couldn't think of a single instance where a different color wasn't a superior choice to navy. In this outfit, chestnut or chocolate brown pants would look even better, IMO.

Navy pants are really just an admission that you shouldn't have bought that sportscoat.
Edited by Cantabrigian - 11/2/12 at 1:38pm
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