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post #36016 of 75947
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

Gentlemen, you need to get your noses out of Victor's ass.
Yes, he is a well dressed man.
Yes, I do enjoy his boundless wardrobe just as much as everybody else in this forum.
Yes, I do like him because he is commited enough to overcome his given language barrier and communicate with us through a translator and especially because he takes time to comment/thumb up on other peoples' outfits and also because he generally comes off as a nice guy.
Yet, if he wouldn't be an obviously well off Russian businessman that made friends with his tailor that closely that he is actually photographed professionally by him on a daily basis, all off you wouldn't be as heads over heels for him as you are right now.
Looking at his outfits, there are several things which even a small timer and forum noob like myself is able to observe:
Unusual and unflattering wrinkles around most of his jackets' shoulders, shirt collars that don't reach under his jacket, wrinkles around his jackets' buttoning points, sometimes at least subjectively clashing colors or at least pairings which, to put it with words of Manton, make the outfit look 'washed out', poverty of contrast due to lack of different visible/distinguishable patterns/textures, spreez like unbuttoned sleeve buttons etc.
Everybody but Victor would get shit or ignorance for details like that, yet even people who post just as regulary and with at least as much taste, think ColdEyedPugilist, upr_crust, NOBD and Spoo, need to rock an impeccable outfit to receive at best half as much thumb ups as Victor gets for every single entry.
Members who try just as hard but simply don't have as great means not even taken into consideration.
Guys, I appeal to all of you not to apply double standards to single members!
Don't let this forum turn into a stage of only very few high gloss posterboys which are admired without sceptisism.
Notice the small guys as well, give them praise for when they improve or do things right, we can learn from it just as much and it would make this forum a more diverse and overall nicer place.

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post #36017 of 75947
Photos: hardly anything, but in the context of this forum they allow for observing more details.
However, being fit and in good shape has everything to do with sartorial elegance. The most important thing for looking good in a suit is losing weight for most.
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On the contrary, it's much more of an achievement to have a tailor make something that's well-fitting and flattering for a fat dude, or some other irregular body shape.  If you're a 22 year old gym bunny, off the peg Armani is wonderful.  But for most people, tailored is better.  Also, if anything, formal suits often make a very lean young man look like a schoolboy in uniform.  So a big shout out to all the old, fuller-figured, bearded or other non-boyish looks on this forum.  Real men looking sharp - always admirable. :)

post #36019 of 75947
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post
 
Unusual and unflattering wrinkles around most of his jackets' shoulders, shirt collars that don't reach under his jacket, wrinkles around his jackets' buttoning points, sometimes at least subjectively clashing colors or at least pairings which, to put it with words of Manton, make the outfit look 'washed out', poverty of contrast due to lack of different visible/distinguishable patterns/textures, spreez like unbuttoned sleeve buttons etc.

 

I think you will find that the collar issue has been pointed out to Victor several times by different people, and he has already agreed with the criticism. You don't expect him to have a whole new wardrobe of shirts made immediately, do you? I don't like his obsession with loafers and I've told him too - but most of the forum love loafers... I don't agree with your comments on colour and pattern - I think he generally has a commitment to a certain kind of look which he pursues with rigour and is mostly successful. I admire that much more than whether he conforms to any external rules. And finally, just because someone gives a thumbs-up doesn't mean that they approve of everything - it's about whether the post is helpful and/or interesting as much as anything else.

 

As for the rest of you comments, some seem to be more about your own prejudices and frustrations. Why do you feel the need to post attacking a particular member and one who makes decent contributions at that? What relevance is it that he is a 'Russian businessman'? Why is bad that he has a tailor, or even that he is friends with one - surely, that's what all of us want?

 

If you have criticisms about specific fits, just make them, but please don't start some kind of campaign against an individual.

post #36020 of 75947
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Originally Posted by southernstyle View Post

My first suit finally arrived yesterday; Samuelsohn in a Loro Piana 4 season super 130's. I couldn't be more pleased, I felt like a million bucks today:
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SS I think this suit is very nice but the only problem I have with it is the shoulder profile. It may be the angle but it looks very top heavy and "pointy." Apologies, I lack the nomenclature and lingo to adequately express but I think it may be the padding or the structure of the shoulder that looks a size too big on you rather than the actual measurement. Curious, it is samuelsohn MTM right? what model did you request? I think someone with your build could have checked out the gable, which I have tried on and found to be rather nice!
post #36021 of 75947
Like a good author or a good composer, Victor has an original, honest voice. Whether one likes or dislikes his clothing, he is never boring and always worth a look. And he does this with good cheer. Certainly, he is one-of-kind, and for this reason, our Forum is all the better for it.
post #36022 of 75947
mimo, there is nothing wrong with Victor being photographed professionally by others, nor do I dislike his clothing or him as a person.
Quite the contrary, I like this guy and his outfits a lot.
My point was to encourage people to critise his fits, because while he is definitely among the better dressed around here, there are still things that are not right about his clothes and we should discuss those rather than just give him praise and create the false impression to both him and others that he was the epitome of bespoke clothing and style.
He is not.
There are still people who know more and do better than him, just have a look at voxsartoria/F.Corbera, Manton, whnay, foo.gif,Iammatt, MaoMao, gazman70k, YFYF, R.O. Thornhill, gdl203...

Some interesting topics to start with:
http://www.styleforum.net/t/253439/waywrn-hall-of-fame-pre-2010/0_100
http://www.styleforum.net/t/132467/gdl203s-highly-edited-and-unexplained-sf-best-looks/0_100
http://www.styleforum.net/t/309586/whnay-s-good-taste-thread/0_100
http://www.styleforum.net/t/301187/maomao-x-gaz-italian-sartorial-adventure-2012/0_100

Also, there are more than just a few people posting here and in the MC casual thread, yet, everybody praises Victor and some of the newer members, those who need guidance more than him, get next to no attention, while our Russian friend receives the 24th thumb up saying "NICE BRO!" which is of no value for anybody who is here to discuss and learn about style.

Also I spoke to Victor both through comments and PMs before, so I am sure he knows exactly how to take my comments and knows they are by no mean meant as an attack towards him.
post #36023 of 75947

Understood :)

post #36024 of 75947
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Originally Posted by RDiaz View Post

 If you can have the sleeves let out it would be wearable. Kind of fashion forward due to shortness, but wearable.

I think I would let out the sleeves but I've decided not to bother. Bu I don't really like short jackets anyway, so I'll chalk it up as a rookie mistake and move on. Now, there's an empty spot in my closet that needs to be filled....... biggrin.gif
post #36025 of 75947
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Originally Posted by VictorSFreturn View Post




Victor, I really like the cloth the suit is made out of, it looks really great!

However, I'm not so sure about patch pockets on a suit, that doesn't do it for me personally. And I also have this thing about tassel loafers confused.gif
post #36026 of 75947
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Originally Posted by Pingson View Post


Victor, I really like the cloth the suit is made out of, it looks really great!
However, I'm not so sure about patch pockets on a suit, that doesn't do it for me personally. And I also have this thing about tassel loafers confused.gif

 

felt the same way until I saw Victor's pic 

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post #36028 of 75947
VICTOR: please do not stop posting, you are light years ahead of other 'giants' here
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Want MMOOOAAARRRRRR Victor icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #36030 of 75947

 

Yes Pliny, this fabric from 1954 is great

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