Here's my confusion, though: Any time I omit the stay, my collar ends up looking like the flying nun by the end of the day -- with the collar itself going concave rather than convex, and the tips lifting from the shirt. And, yes, even on "decent" (i.e., canvased) shirts. Drives me insane.
BTW, killer fit, Spoo. Again.
Regarding flyaway collars, I think thats happened with only one shirt Ive owned. Dont know why.