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Do you have a dachshund? She sheds minimally in the turn of the warm weather, but not really. One pass with a lint roller and its good. She's also short, so can't reach much past the ankles.
Deckels Über alles!
This is something I have absolutely no tolerance or patience for. I was at a friend's last weekend who has a "sheddy" dog and I swear I left all my clothes in the car, wore one thing in the house and tried not to touch anything. I seriously don't know how or why y'all deal with such inconvenience and be covered in hair on nice clothing.
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This is something I have absolutely no tolerance or patience for. I was at a friend's last weekend who has a "sheddy" dog and I swear I left all my clothes in the car, wore one thing in the house and tried not to touch anything. I seriously don't know how or why y'all deal with such inconvenience and be covered in hair on nice clothing.
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-5 points for you. I love my dog more than anything.
more than the croc double monks??!!

nah... I'm just kidding. I know people really love their pets and I've had other friends with cats and dogs whom I've really enjoyed... it's just when it comes to pet hair on my nice duds it's no more Mr. Nice Guy!

This is something I have absolutely no tolerance or patience for. I was at a friend's last weekend who has a "sheddy" dog and I swear I left all my clothes in the car, wore one thing in the house and tried not to touch anything. I seriously don't know how or why y'all deal with such inconvenience and be covered in hair on nice clothing.
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Well don't you sound like a giant ball of fun.
I'm all about fun as long as your dog isn't jumping, slobbering and getting hair all over me. and just because I mind dog hair on my clothing doesn't have any relation to my "fun factor"... just maybe your dog won't think I'm fun
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THis looks great, and I don´t even mind the hat, but what is up with your PSs dude?? They´re going crazy!! This one seems like a fatened up red lips vagina trying to escape from your jacket...
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Vox, very eloquently stated. I bow to you once again with respect.
I was thinking about this argument yesterday and 3 points came to mind. Both are important to me as the distinction I draw between MC and SW&D philosophies.
1. MC doesn't care about brands as long as the piece looks good. Of course, we will drool over RLPL, because it mostly looks great on everyone, but we will equally respect and adore a $5 thrifted sport coat if it fits well and is harmonious with the rest of the outfit. SW&D, on the other hand, pays a lot of attention to brands and often defines the "awesomeness" of an outfit based on the maker.
2. I have a lot of acquaintances in various social circles and nobody dresses like Mr. Shah or the other extreme SW&D posters. Most people wear some ill-fitting version of the MC casual wear sprinkled with some hipster or office plankton elements, depending on the setting. This leads me to believe that MC-version of toned down casual wear is more socially acceptable than the extreme examples in SW&D.
3. My whole life, be it professional, art, cooking or clothing has led me to believe that there is a certain path from novice to amateur to expert, and that path is always from more complexity to less. Sublime subtlety seems to be the most difficult to achieve. A couple simple examples from everyday life:
a) cooking: beginners want to mix in more stuff, more spices, more flavors. As they become more experienced, they focus on combining a few high-quality ingredients to truly appreciate their taste.
b) photography: beginners want more photoshop, more colors or black and white, retro styling, hdr, etc. Most professional take a few shots and mostly leave them unedited, because true beauty and talent is in simplicity, not covering up a lack of originality and skill with filters and airbrushing.
To me, MC represents a natural progression from SW&D. From brands to appreciating a certain aesthetic. From many layers, stacking, etc. to simple lines and elegant designs. From rebelling against society and desperately trying to be original to becoming one with it, but a step above everyone else.
Could you sound more pretentious?
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In real life, in the streets, most people who wear suits look like crap. Pants too long and/or baggy, shirts 1 or 2 sizes too big, horrible fitting jackets and shoes that, if posted here, could cause posters to hurl. Compare to those, people here look amazing. There´s nothing normal about MC. The vast majority of the population that choose or have to wear suits, look nothing like those who usually post here. Yes, surely there are guys out there who know the concept of fit, but most people don´t, because they don´t care or mainly because they just don´t know better.
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A simpler question is: What are you trying to achieve with your clothing? And what are you actually achieving?
Vox looks absolutely smashing in his tailored suits and jackets. (I'm not sucking up, I just really admire his collecting and taste.) He looks like a million bucks. Dressing like that makes people respect him, want to do business with him, provide better service for him, etc. Even a bunch of high school kids will undoubtedly see and sense his authority and not make fun of his "grandpa" clothing.
What does the goth ninja aesthetic achieve?
The Yohji aesthetic isn't for me, but there are a couple of posters is SW&D who have really mastered the look. I appreciate it from a visual aspect, even if they aren't clothes I myself would wear. To your question, "what does it achieve?" Cannot someone dress in a certain manner because they like it or they like the way it makes them feel? If your profession doesn't box you into a certain aesthetic, then why not wear what you're comfortable in; what makes you feel good? The aforementioned members who wear mostly Yohji aren't terribly concerned with how others perceive their manner of dress. They know that to the average person, their ensembles look odd and maybe even off-putting. Yet that doesn't deter them from the look, because they aren't dressing themselves with the mindset of what other people will or won't approve of.
You seem to have a lot of thought invested in how others see you. You mentioned one of the influencing factors in how you dress is that you associate that look with the social circle you'd like to occupy. If that works for you, fine. A lot of people do it. As such, it can be easy to forget that there are some people who aren't concerned with how odd someone else thinks their clothes are. That perception is irrelevant to the bigger priority: How a certain look makes them feel.
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