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post #991 of 1764
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Originally Posted by Harrydog View Post


Though you have to admit, Fiddler, that you vented pretty harshly before you gave Leffot any chance to respond...

 

Absolutely, yes...businesses must realise that with the internet they are open to more scrutiny and instant consumer feedback channels than ever before. This is our way of keeping them honest.

 

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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

 

I think it was, initially at least, more about how you had spread that issue all across the thread before even giving Leffot the right to reply.  Very shabby behaviour.

 

Rightly or not, it looked like you were angling for some leverage to turn the situation to your financial advantage...

 

Subjective and largely speculation on your part. See above

 

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Originally Posted by Harrydog View Post



If Leffot helped orchestrate the export ban on AFPoS, my opinion is far more soured towards them.
 
We should be careful not to assume Leffot is responsible for this. I personally would be surprised if this was so. I don't think they have that much clout to influence something as drastic as this. I understand it's because AS is planning to open stores in certain countries...but this is hearsay at the moment.
post #992 of 1764
If it is AS's doing, I really question the wisdom, but let's wait and see. If AS starts popping up with a good selection for the consumer then it will be a good thing.
post #993 of 1764
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Originally Posted by yywwyy View Post

Really? I always thought well of them...

I always think well of them. That is why I try to buy from them, but they are doing well enogh to disrespect new customers.
post #994 of 1764

www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk
Edited by Afinepairofshoes - 1/25/13 at 7:02am
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And we're back in the room!

A very warm welcome back to all our loyal customers and contributors to our threads - we are picking up where we left off with StyleForum and look forward to a great union for the foreseeable future.

We have been working hard on continually improving our site and service, with brand new "Fine" products including a comprehensive range of La Cordonnerie Anglaise shoe care kits and brushes, enlarged our Saphir range to one of the largest on the internet and lots of interesting projects in store over the coming months.

Our shoe brands Alfred Sargent and Sanders have also been continually gaining acclaim and support from new and previous customers.

We also have a brand new review functionality for all our products and services from only verified buyers, so you know the reviews are honest and accurate.

We also have been working hard on both our Instagram feed, that is updated daily with all our own pictures, and our Facebook page.

And to top this off, we still are able to ship next day into US & Canada (if orders are received before 11am GMT) for all shoes and boots.

If there is anything we can assist you with with, drop us a PM or email us at julian@afinepairofshoes.co.uk
Edited by Afinepairofshoes - 5/23/13 at 2:02am
post #997 of 1764
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Originally Posted by Afinepairofshoes View Post

And we're back in the room!

A very warm welcome back to all our loyal customers and contributors to our threads - we are picking up where we left off with StyleForum and look forward to a great union for the foreseeable future.

We have been working hard on continually improving our site and service, with brand new "Fine" products including a comprehensive range of La Cordonnerie Anglaise shoe care kits and brushes, enlarged our Saphir range to one of the largest on the internet and lots of interesting projects in store over the coming months.

Our shoe brands Alfred Sargent and Sanders have also been continually gaining acclaim and support from new and previous customers.

We also have a brand new review functionality for all our products and services from only verified buyers, so you know the reviews are honest and accurate.

We also have been working hard on both our Instagram feed, that is updated daily with all our own pictures, and our Facebook page.

And to top this off, we still are able to ship next day into US & Canada (if orders are received before 11am GMT) for all shoes and boots.

If there is anything we can assist you with with, drop us a PM or email us at julian@afinepairofshoes.co.uk
Great to have you back Sarah and Julian! We've missed you around here!
post #998 of 1764
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Originally Posted by Swede66 View Post

Great to have you back Sarah and Julian! We've missed you around here!

Thanks Swede66, we've missed being around and very happy to be back!
post #999 of 1764
Glad to have AFPOS back on the forum.

I now have to decide whether I want a free matching belt, or free lasted trees for my Radwells.
post #1000 of 1764
I'm glad you guys are back smile.gif guess I have to sign up for your mailing list again
post #1001 of 1764
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

Glad to have AFPOS back on the forum.

I now have to decide whether I want a free matching belt, or free lasted trees for my Radwells.

We will do either for you gyasih!
post #1002 of 1764
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Originally Posted by gaseousclay View Post

I'm glad you guys are back smile.gif guess I have to sign up for your mailing list again

That would be great if you do, thank you - we will continue to run our mailers with new products, interesting items and special offers or sales.
post #1003 of 1764
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Originally Posted by Afinepairofshoes View Post

We will do either for you gyasih!

Thanks, I will contact you via PM for price of both.
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

Thanks, I will contact you via PM for price of both.

I ordered and received a Radwell. It would have been nice to get a belt!
Edited by Saratorial_Splender - 5/23/13 at 12:14pm
post #1005 of 1764
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Originally Posted by Harrydog View Post

I have posted at great length on the AS MTO thread.

I am annoyed enough that I am inclined to simply not give AS my business in any shape or form. Would love to know the details as to how this export ban developed. If Leffot pushed it as a condition for stocking their limited run of exclusive styles, shame on them and a very stupid move by AS because I think they would do better in the US market developing the AFPoS connection. It will be interesting to see how the shoes sell at Leffot at that price point. I wonder whether we will see them discounted at some point. At that price point, I am off to Paul Stuart where there is a much greater variety of options from a range of quality makers. I have also done special orders through PS at reasonable mark-ups.

The solution as I argued in the other thread was to have AS and Leffot develop a line unique to Leffot. That would increase buying options for the consumer and to some extent justify the higher price. If AS is willing to do a limited run of a custom style with a six pair minimum order, I would think the numbers involved with a special order to Leffot would be 18 pairs (assuming a size run of 7-11 with two pair in each size.) Another option would to have AFPoS pricing negotiated with and brought into line with what Leffot feels thay have to ask. AS would charge a standard wholesale cost and all could agree on a standard mark-up for sales in the US. That would at least keep the widest possible buying options available.

I wonder how many SF or AAAC signatures we could round up in a note to AS decrying this decision.

Hi Harrydog - How have you been? Just checked out this thread and I missed this drama when it was originally posted, but I thought I would set the record straight here. Even though it's old news now, and things have reverted, I am disappointed to see Leffot's name dragged around here like this, without any fact or knowledgeable commentary.

I am the one who insisted on the 'non-US' selling policy, and I alone. Last year Chay contacted me (we had communicated regularly on the re-development of the A/S Exclusive Range, and one thing led to another.....) and asked me to help introduce the new Exclusives to my clients here, and I accepted for a short term arrangement. The one caveat was that I didn't think there would be much potential in the US to develop a business and distribution thru independent retailers without a stock program, which they understood but were not in a position to invest in at the time. I agreed to finance the stock program and keep it going here from our warehouse, and handle all the requirements of the trade shows, travel, financing of terms to retailers, etc., etc.....all the normal work of a stock agency. However, those expenses require country specific price lists, like it or not. I'm not spending $40,000 a year in trade show costs, all the usual expenses to travel the US, taxes on inventory....everything, without being able to turn a profit on a distribution business here - not to mention something for my family in the way of a salary. I'm quite sure most here can appreciate the need to actually build a profitable business. If I was handling the financial commitment for them, then I was not going to allow a UK retailer to ship into the US on promotional prices, free shipping......no way to build a business, and not fair to put my family money at risk without protection. So, the memo went out eliminating the selling into the US to allow us to start to build the business here. It's normal procedure - just like Alden dealers here who are not allowed to ship into Japan. It's the way it is.

In the end, numerous circumstances involving A/S caused me to finally give notice that I was no longer interested in working with them here, and that we were returning the on-hand inventory to the UK and they can organize something here on their own for the future. Obviously, that allowed the shipping policy to revert to 'every man for himself', which is cool. Glad to see folks here getting a good deal on the shoes, as I always believed they represented very good value for the money. Also glad to see Julian and Sarah back in the game here, as my limited dealings with them were certainly honorable and I wish every family business much success.

However, I also felt the need to jump into this thread with an explanation, as I think it is patently unfair to have brought Leffot's name into this on speculation - especially since it is 100% false. And to wrap it up, if these conversations come up again with other lines here, you should note that rarely does a NYC retailer care at all about internet pricing and policies....they have enough trade and work to keep them busy without having to be concerned with such things. It's the suburban, smaller retailers who have a more limited trade and can sell, maybe, 18 pair of higher-end shoes a year to select clients who are concerned with organized pricing and limited distribution.
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