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Please explain Ronald Reagan

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Can someone please explain to a non American the romanticism of 'Ronald Reagan'. He has an aircraft carrier named after him and an airport in Washington and probably countless other things named after him. He is also regularly referred to by Sarah Palin. I understand he was a Republican so I would be interested in hearing both from all sides and parties from the political spectrum.
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Brown nosing.
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He made brown acceptable in suits for non-farmers.
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conservative superhero that didn't do or represent 90% of the shit that today's republican politicians think. really great man.
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Some of the "romanticism" is because he was a movie star. Americans love movie stars. John Wayne also has an airport named after him.
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conservative superhero that didn't do or represent 90% of the shit that today's republican politicians think. really great man.
This is basically it. OP, the best explanation I can give is that "He" is like a turning point (perhaps a Christ-like figure) for conservatives. in before tl;dr/:colinpowell.gif: From the Great Depression (and the successes of FDR, the New Deal, and winning WWII) thru the 1960s, the Republican party was largely a dead letter. The South was solidly Democratic and run by back-slapping good ole boys, the Industrialized-North was solidly Democratic and ran by urban machine politics. The Republicans were some weird coalition of Connecticut garden party types (like George H.W. Bush), Westerners (who moved out there post-Depression or post-WWII to live in the newly created suburbs) and radical right-wing extremists (John Birch Society). Some writers thought it was going to be a permanent-minority party and the Democrats would be a permanent-ruling party. Dwight Eisenhower was a Republican and won the Presidency twice, but mainly because he was a war-hero. And he was pretty moderate politically. His VP, Nixon, failed to win the Presidency against JFK. Barry Goldwater, an Arizona libertarian-esque type got the Republican presidential nomination and ran against JFK's vice-president, Lyndon Johnson, in 1964. He lost, but it inspired a lot of folks. Reagan comes around and wins the Governorship of California in the 1970s. Towards the end of the '70s we had a stagnant economy (not unlike England, but for different reasons) and a lot of self-loathing after losing the Vietnam War, losing the Iranian hostage situation, and generally feeling like the US was in decline and the Soviet Union was going to crush us. Reagan beat Jimmy Carter and is remembered as the first modern Republican president to curry a lot of favor with the supply-siders on the Wall Street Journal editorial board, mention God a lot, and was very pro-America and pro-defense. Reagan's wins in 1980 and 1984 (thus his policies and national-acceptance) are seen as paving the way for Bush Sr. in 1988, and for the 'Republican Revolution' taking over the federal legislature in 1994 for the first time in like 40 years and numerous state legislatures for the first time in like 50 years. As rjkapeanut points out, he is basically fetishized by the new mixture of neo-cons and Tea Party types, even though his positions are irreconcilable with theirs most of the time. They would argue that he was only moderating because of politics in the 1980s, and now he would be with them . . . In my state, the Democrats have controlled the state legislature for about 130 years, until last fall. The newly-minted Republicans will trace their success, to a degree, back to Reagan who either 1) made conservatism acceptable again or 2) stood up for "conservative values" when the Democratic party abandoned them. Depending on which perspective you have, of course. EDIT - also, he was B.F.F. with Margaret Thatcher. They were both recent politicians to stand up to unions, argue that the government should be smaller, push privatization, reduce regulation, etc.
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As rjkapeanut points out, he is basically fetishized by the new mixture of neo-cons and Tea Party types, even though his positions are irreconcilable with theirs most of the time. They would argue that he was only moderating because of politics in the 1980s, and now he would be with them . . .

Example?

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I remember watching Pulp Fiction with my grandparents, and my grandma(PBUH) said (about Jules) "he's a handsome-looking negro"
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Reagan banned the sale of newly made machine guns to civilians. Reagan signed the bill that allowed illegal immigrants to get free health care at emergency rooms, which exacerbated the clusterfuck of health care we have now. Reagan paroled a bunch of prisoners out of the California prisons. Reagan was not a fiscal conservative. He spent money like a Democrat. Instead of tax & spend, he was just spend & spend. The Republicans aren't sure what to say about Libya, so it is hard to spin whether St. Ronnie would be in favor of it or not. I suppose most would say he would be in favor of it . . . which puts him into opposition with the isolationist wing of the Tea Party which is against UN-backed foreign interventions, entanglements, and human-rights missions.
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A big part of it is persona.

He was optomistic, determined, intelligent, and direct. That can breed a lot of followers.

He was also one of few people that could effectively sell his ideas. Supply side economics is more complicated to understand than taxing people you're jealous of. I generally agree with his ideas, for disclosure purposes.
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A big part of it is persona.

He was optomistic, determined, intelligent, and direct. That can breed a lot of followers.

He was also one of few people that could effectively sell his ideas. Supply side economics is more complicated to understand than taxing people you're jealous of. I generally agree with his ideas, for disclosure purposes.

"taxing people you're jealous of" is kind of dickish
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A generally scary ideologue who had a strangely vacuous stare in the last three or four years of his presidency. He once joked about bombing the Soviet Union. He wore brown a lot. Had great hair. While he never pushed "the button", which many worried he might do, you got the feeling he may have at least run his finger over it in a drive-before-buy, if you will.
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He won the cold war.
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I think Crazyquik has a fairly good take on it on. Reagan is interesting to me since I really should care for the legacy of the guy, but always found myself kinda liking him.
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"taxing people you're jealous of" is kind of dickish

Not to derail the thread, but I think it is dickish to do so. Tariffs, trade barriers, and parabolic tax curves help no one and are unfair.
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