I tried to iron out the creases, which didn't work so well - the physical folds came out OK but the indigo is lighter along the lines, so even after ironing it looks basically the same even though it's flat. Afterwards I washed them, just as an experiment and also to make them shrink (the waist doesn't shrink that much but the legs tighten up to what you'd expect - I'm gonna measure eventually for comparison to AW grifters, if anybody wants to know measurements for 32x34 one-wash I can post them too - and the inseam shrinks by an inch or two). Of course, the wash just fixed in the contrast lines - now it looks like there are random slash marks on the lap, front of the knees, shins (????), and inside pocket (also ???). edit - also, I don't know whether this has been mentioned, but they are definitely not stiff at all, pretty much the same before and after a wash.