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post #346 of 381
I picked up a pair of the 514 black tumbled to tide me over until I get another pair of "real" black jeans, but these are stretching like crazy.... they were snug when I bought them and after only about 3-4 wears they're already too big. I mean the stretching is way worse than any pair of APC's I've owned. Anyone else had this problem? I wonder if Macy's will let me exchange them at this point...
post #347 of 381
My blues stretch a lot too, post-wash (cold) they're snug in the waist and thigh but they stretch out a bit after a few weeks of wear (or less). I could've gone a size smaller, sounds like you could've too, unless the thighs would be too tight (which I doubt). I'd try exchanging them if I were you, and if that doesn't work they DO only run you around $33.
post #348 of 381
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Originally Posted by YoPete525 View Post
My blues stretch a lot too, post-wash (cold) they're snug in the waist and thigh but they stretch out a bit after a few weeks of wear (or less). I could've gone a size smaller, sounds like you could've too, unless the thighs would be too tight (which I doubt). I'd try exchanging them if I were you, and if that doesn't work they DO only run you around $33.
Is the stretching that significant?
Would you recommend going a size smaller when buying the non-rigid 514s?

I just bought a pair of size 34 "tumble rigids" and fit exactly as I want them around the waist, however the legs and thighs of the 33s seem to fit better but they are a bit snug around the waist.

I like the way the 34s feel but do not want them to stretch to the point where they start to look like "relaxed" jeans, will the 33s stretch to a similar fit of that of the 34s once stretched?

Thanks.
post #349 of 381
If you intend to wash them more rarely and treat them like raw denim, I'd definitely go a size down. More snug in the waist seems to be the key to any denim worn in this manner to combat waist, and less significantly, thigh stretching. If the thighs still don't fit well (too tight/loose) then the cut isn't working for your leg/body type. I'm not highly experienced with raw denim in any way but judging from general comments I'd say that the stretching from the Tumbled Rigid 514's is pretty significant over time. It sounds to me like the 33 would be the better way to go. But since you've already got the 34s you may want to just stick with them and see how they progress. I doubt they'd stretch so much that they'd look like a relaxed cut.
post #350 of 381
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Originally Posted by YoPete525 View Post
If you intend to wash them more rarely and treat them like raw denim, I'd definitely go a size down. More snug in the waist seems to be the key to any denim worn in this manner to combat waist, and less significantly, thigh stretching. If the thighs still don't fit well (too tight/loose) then the cut isn't working for your leg/body type.

I'm not highly experienced with raw denim in any way but judging from general comments I'd say that the stretching from the Tumbled Rigid 514's is pretty significant over time. It sounds to me like the 33 would be the better way to go. But since you've already got the 34s you may want to just stick with them and see how they progress. I doubt they'd stretch so much that they'd look like a relaxed cut.

Thanks for the tip, I might just stick to the 34s ad maybe experiment with a pair of 33s later on.
post #351 of 381
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Originally Posted by syc View Post
Just FYI, Levi's will have two new raw colors for fall (should start seeing them around 6/1 in some places): Raw Green and Raw Grey. 'Dirty Rigid' and 'Tumbled Rigid' should continue to be available.
Any idea where to get these online (and ships to Europe)? Cant seem to find them on Ebay.
post #352 of 381
Back in March, I bought a pair of the "Premium Japanese Selvege" Levis 514s. It's my understanding that those were NOT raw, but gorgeous denim nonetheless. I love these jeans.

Now I see that Levis is stocking these "raw, rigid selvege" 514s: http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp...691994.3146870

I take it this is an entirely different denim than what I bought in March? Form the pictures, it looks different. Also, the smallest waist size is 30, instead of the 29s I got in the (non-raw) Japanese Selvege. Is this larger lowest sizing because the raw denim will shrink, rendering size 29s sorta irrelevant for the adult market?
post #353 of 381
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Malocchio View Post
Back in March, I bought a pair of the "Premium Japanese Selvege" Levis 514s. It's my understanding that those were NOT raw, but gorgeous denim nonetheless. I love these jeans.

Now I see that Levis is stocking these "raw, rigid selvege" 514s: http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp...691994.3146870

I take it this is an entirely different denim than what I bought in March? Form the pictures, it looks different. Also, the smallest waist size is 30, instead of the 29s I got in the (non-raw) Japanese Selvege. Is this larger lowest sizing because the raw denim will shrink, rendering size 29s sorta irrelevant for the adult market?

The latest raw 514 jeans are being sold online at $79.50, but the tag in them says $98.00. There is no mention of Japanese denim anywhere on the jeans, just the typical Levis description of what they mean by "rigid" -- the dye may fade, etc.

They are made in China.
post #354 of 381
Hmmm. So, no good?
post #355 of 381
I like them fine. They aren't as nice as my JS rockers, but I wasn't epecting them to be. I think they're nicer than the UO unbranded jeans, but the denim is not as heavyweight as the UOs. So I'd say they're worth the eighty bucks Levis is asking. I got 40% off for filling out some survey Levis.com emailed me, so I picked them up for around $50--I think they're well worth it at that price. Edit to say, I haven't really worn them much beyond trying them on because it's been hot here for the past few days. I'm hoping they'll stretch out a bit, but I don't think it's going to be drastic. Just my initial opinion, and I am far from an expert on denim.
post #356 of 381
Well, it is kinda tempting. Is the sizing different for raw denim? That is, if I usually wear a 29 waist in the 514s, should I get the 30?
post #357 of 381
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Malocchio View Post
Well, it is kinda tempting. Is the sizing different for raw denim? That is, if I usually wear a 29 waist in the 514s, should I get the 30?

I ordered the same size, and they fit just like the regular 514s initially fit. Whether they will stretch out as much is an open question. Levis.com has a pretty good return policy if you don't like what you get.
post #358 of 381
If you know that size 29 works best for you in the Levi's 514 cut, I wouldn't bother. Wait and see whether they become available in that size, or try a different option.
post #359 of 381
They're also offering some "Raw Selvedge" in their Matchstick cut, Kaihara denim.Right Here.

At that price, you're probably better off grabbing some APC's or something, but I'd love to see what these look like.
post #360 of 381
Huh. Haven't seen that one before. Is this cut the same as the Capital "E" Matchsticks?

(I ask mostly because I'm a 30" waist in Capital Es - and, per a one-time fitting only - also a 30 waist in 511s. I'm a 29 waist for 514s.)

Also, "Kaihara" denim? Is this the same selvege that was used in the 514s available back in the early part of the year? I'm wearing those 514s right now, and the look of the denim is very similar to those Matchstick pics (the texture, folds, and that nice blue "sheen").
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