Originally Posted by Qzar
Man that looks like a really good deal, I'm on a tight budget and I've been looking for a new pair of jeans (hopefully unwashed) and these look really good. My question is... if these are actually Reds then shouldn't they shrink? On the Levi's website if you go to the Levi red 514 section it has a warning that the Rigid Scraped shrink up to one size when machine washed so I am not exactly sure if I should go for a regular fit or size up (which I wouldn't want to do since I won't be washing these jeans for a long while). btw n00bish question
: the Rigid Scraped does mean unwashed/raw right? So they will fade when washed?
I guess I'll find out about the shrinking in a few months. Hmm. In any case, yes the Rigid Scraped is unwashed, so they should fade with wear and washing. The denim is a little soft; it's being stubborn in taking creases. They're starting to form on mine (Saturday being the only full day I've worn them), so I'm not worried, but they do seem like they're going to be a little annoying to break in. I'm not sure you'll get a really high-contrast fade with these unless you're a bike messenger or something, but I'm not really looking for that in any case.
I'm confused: Are all Levi's 514 "raw" denim, or just one type? How can you tell when you're at the store? Are the ones with the really dark color, or do you go by feel? Does the label say raw?
The label will say "Rigid Scraped" if they're raw. That's the only "wash" of the 514 in which it comes raw (in the US at least). Everything else has already been washed and (usually) predistressed.