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post #16 of 75
Only other thing I'll add is that I'd recommend ones which use cloth/textile attachments for the trousers, not leather. The leather attachments are a bit thicker and, especially under a vest or cummerbund, could make unnecessary bulges.
post #17 of 75
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post
I thought a highly polished calfskin cap toe was acceptable, no?

No.
And the OP bought the tux. Why not spring for some proper shoes so that he will be rockin a proper outfit!
post #18 of 75
Wear the braces, but please make sure they're real braces and not the cheesy clip-ons. I agree that you really should wear a cummerbund - it completes the outfit. I once shared your leeriness towards them but you really need to elongate your line with the 'bund. It's much more elegant. I know it's probably heresy but I hate patent leather shoes. I much prefer a well-shined black shoe - a wholecut would be best IMO but a captoe is fine in my book.
post #19 of 75
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No.
And the OP bought the tux. Why not spring for some proper shoes so that he will be rockin a proper outfit!

I could have purchased the Allen Edmonds formal shoe, the Kendall, at a pretty strong discount, but I just don't like patent leather. I don't like the look or feel of a patent shoe, and I also want my feet to breathe. I normally don't wear black shoes, but the PAs are classic, and I'm sure they will be put to good use when I finish law school.
post #20 of 75
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Originally Posted by marg View Post
I could have purchased the Allen Edmonds formal shoe, the Kendall, at a pretty strong discount, but I just don't like patent leather. I don't like the look or feel of a patent shoe, and I also want my feet to breathe. I normally don't wear black shoes, but the PAs are classic, and I'm sure they will be put to good use when I finish law school.

You'll be fine. You choice will only upset the pickiest of the bunch who would find fault elsewhere.
post #21 of 75
Highly-polished Park Avenues are the least of your sartorial transgressions. Two-button notched-lapel? Sorry, but you have not purchased a DJ. You have purchased a black suit. It doesn't make that much difference what accessories you wear with it. If it were an actual single-breasted DJ, then a cummerbund or a vest would be mandatory. And yes, you would need suspenders. As for you theory about peak lapels having high armholes and narrow sleeves, I think this pretty much covers it, wut? I am also concerned about your comment that you would have to spend $100 on alterations. Perhaps you meant $100 extra on alterations. But the absolute key to any RTW tuxedo is having it properly altered by an independent tailor, i.e., not the guy in the shop. You should expect to spend $100-$150 in alterations to make your new DJ your own. If you do, even an inexpensive one will look great. If you don't, it will almost certainly look like crap regardless of how much you paid for it.
post #22 of 75
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Highly-polished Park Avenues are the least of your sartorial transgressions.

Two-button notched-lapel? Sorry, but you have not purchased a DJ. You have purchased a black suit. It doesn't make that much difference what accessories you wear with it.

If it were an actual single-breasted DJ, then a cummerbund or a vest would be mandatory. And yes, you would need suspenders.

As for you theory about peak lapels having high armholes and narrow sleeves, I think this pretty much covers it,

wut?

I am also concerned about your comment that you would have to spend $100 on alterations. Perhaps you meant $100 extra on alterations. But the absolute key to any RTW tuxedo is having it properly altered by an independent tailor, i.e., not the guy in the shop. You should expect to spend $100-$150 in alterations to make your new DJ your own. If you do, even an inexpensive one will look great. If you don't, it will almost certainly look like crap regardless of how much you paid for it.

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/ca...0734cat9050733
--> Armani Tux, notch lapel. Odds are, most wouldn't consider this a black suit.


http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop...1_10050_101492
--> My mistake, it is a 1 button. The Canali and Abboud I tried on were 2 button. Again, most wouldn't consider this a black suit. Just to clarify, I ordered it with flat-front pants, not the pleats.
post #23 of 75
I don't consider a notch lapel suitable for a tux. It is a casual Fuck You to the dress code. As for braces, you MUST wear it with a tux. And for shoes, they must be formal slippers/pumps, preferable to be black, midnight or navy, patterned too; patent leather, velvet or suede.
post #24 of 75
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Originally Posted by marg View Post
I could have purchased the Allen Edmonds formal shoe, the Kendall, at a pretty strong discount, but I just don't like patent leather. I don't like the look or feel of a patent shoe, and I also want my feet to breathe. I normally don't wear black shoes, but the PAs are classic, and I'm sure they will be put to good use when I finish law school.

I'm in the same boat as you. Just picked up a mtm tux and am on the hunt for some decent shoes to pair them with. I was thinking about PAs and putting a good shine to them, but now I'm leaning towards spending some extra for a pair of black calf wholecuts. This way I don't have to hear about the appropriateness of captoe for formal wear. You'll still catch some flack for it not being a pump or patent, but it's seamless and imo a much more modern look.
post #25 of 75
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Originally Posted by PaoloM View Post
I don't consider a notch lapel suitable for a tux. It is a casual Fuck You to the dress code. As for braces, you MUST wear it with a tux. And for shoes, they must be formal slippers/pumps, preferable to be black, midnight or navy, patterned too; patent leather, velvet or suede.

+1
post #26 of 75
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I'm in the same boat as you. Just picked up a mtm tux and am on the hunt for some decent shoes to pair them with. I was thinking about PAs and putting a good shine to them, but now I'm leaning towards spending some extra for a pair of black calf wholecuts. This way I don't have to hear about the appropriateness of captoe for formal wear. You'll still catch some flack for it not being a pump or patent, but it's seamless and imo a much more modern look.


Alden makes a plain toe plaza bal, but I didn't want to spend that much. The extra hundred was better allocated to investments, mortgage, etc. The PAs give me the most mileage for my dollar.

http://www.aldenshop.com/Store/DrawP...ageID=&Action=

I knew I would get hammered by some on the forum, but that's fine. Comes with the territory. I just needed to know if braces were a must. Seems so.
post #27 of 75
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Originally Posted by ter1413 View Post
+1

You can +1 all you like, I think formal pumps look ridiculous. Velvet slippers, not so bad, but I prefer laceups.
post #28 of 75
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Originally Posted by marg View Post
I knew I would get hammered by some on the forum, but that's fine. Comes with the territory. I just needed to know if braces were a must. Seems so.

Hah, if it makes you feel any better, I'm not wearing braces or a waist covering. I just didn't start a thread about it because I didn't want to feel guilty about doing so. Just keep the jacket buttoned.

Yeah, the mileage of a PA goes much further. Here's a black wholecut that's roughly the same price as that Alden. I'm not sure if that's a Cheaney or an Alfred Sargent though.
post #29 of 75
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Originally Posted by marg View Post
You can +1 all you like, I think formal pumps look ridiculous. Velvet slippers, not so bad, but I prefer laceups.

And outside of this forum and other select small circles, formal pumps look like you stole something outta your girlfriends closet.
post #30 of 75
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Conservative 2-button, high notch jacket.

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no cummerbund. not a fan. i just wanted to keep it simple.

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