Originally Posted by Crat
Anyway, my main point is that being chiseled is mainly a combination between diet and cardio combined with (some) weight training and that those who put more effort into their diet needn't do as much cardio and vice versa to get ripped.
Yes, I agree. Obviously the more one trains, the more one can 'get away' with, concerning diet. For the average non-athlete though, this is a slippery slope. 2-4 hrs/day of specific training (weights, LISS, what have you) is pretty much reserved for those who are competitive athletes.