Blackberry Playbook

Originally Posted by Dakota rube

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This isn't exactly a glowing recommendation. My BB has turned into the buggiest, crashing-est ******* piece of bullshit crap I've ever owned.


you need to run a hybrid or at least shrink out the bloat

Originally Posted by shahanshah

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you need to run a hybrid or at least shrink out the bloat

That philosophy could be applied to several aspects of my life.

Originally Posted by shahanshah

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google voice number portability

ahem...

Originally Posted by Matt

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can only run with one telco in VN, and I'm not with them - and there is no number portability either.

Originally Posted by xpress

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As ridiculous as that is, and taking into account how many customers that would alienate from this product....
As I posted above... I see this as an add-on for existing blackberry users, as opposed to a stand alone device.
Therefore, sync me up Tony.

moi aussi

Originally Posted by gdl203

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This is going to be a memorable flop

Originally Posted by Kookz

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Memorable may be a bit generous.

Hey, it can't possibly be as bad as Coleco's Adam, right? Right?

"dual tape-drive"

Originally Posted by Matt

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ahem...

i mean port your current number to google voice then it doesnt matter what provider you go with and what number they give you, your current number will ring your new phone/carrier

http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/...number-to.html

nup....

Google Voice is available in the U.S. only

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Originally Posted by MikeDT

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From what I've read about the Playbook, one needs a Blackberry phone with Blackberry service to send and receive emails with the thing. RIM had better fix this in the next version or whatever, otherwise it's not going to be giving anything a run for its money.

Well, IT managers at large enterprises (RIM's core customers) absolutely love this - helps protect the integrity of the network. I'm not saying its perfect from the perspective of a consumer device, but RIM has opted for this for a specific reason (its not an oversight on their part).

Originally Posted by AR_Six

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Apparently the OS RIM bought for this thing blows BB's current phone OS out of the water, according to a review I read. A lot like WebOS. I agree with you on the stuff about needing a computer to do a lot of things where my phone can't, the screen is too small to make a lot of things manageable. If this sucker actually has a phone in it and I can just bluetooth to a headset I don't see why I'll need to carry a phone, side from it being more compact.

QNX is what I assume you're refering to, next year we will see several devices released. for what it's worth carrier reps said their "jaws dropped" when introduced to these devices and the playbook...

current


future qnx

Originally Posted by Matt

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nup....

did not pay attention to your location, my bad

I saw the title of this thread and thought blackberry was trying to compete with playboy by publishing a monthly nude book. Turns out its just an equally as bad idea.

Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley

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Well, IT managers at large enterprises (RIM's core customers) absolutely love this - helps protect the integrity of the network. I'm not saying its perfect from the perspective of a consumer device, but RIM has opted for this for a specific reason (its not an oversight on their part).
Maybe someone should tell RIM's marketing department that the Playbook tablet is better designed for corporate and enterprise use. Attachment 62069 http://us.blackberry.com/ The Blackberry front page as it appears at the moment. 'It's game on', 'awesome web, gaming, video experience'. The screen shows the thing playing a racing game. A direct link for consumers to buy the thing from Best Buy. Even the name 'Playbook' sounds like the Sony games consoles, as someone else has already pointed out. Seems to me that RIM is heavily marketing the Playbook as a consumer, gaming and entertainment device, to go head-to-head with things like the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Sony PSP and Nintendo DS(whatever). Its dependance on another Blackberry device and Blackberry subscription makes it a complete fail for consumer web, e-mail, gaming and entertainment purposes.

Originally Posted by MikeDT

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Maybe someone should tell RIM's marketing department that the Playbook tablet is better designed for corporate and enterprise use.


http://us.blackberry.com/ The Blackberry front page as it appears at the moment. 'It's game on', 'awesome web, gaming, video experience'. The screen shows the thing playing a racing game. A direct link for consumers to buy the thing from Best Buy. Even the name 'Playbook' sounds like the Sony games consoles, as someone else has already pointed out.

Seems to me that RIM is heavily marketing the Playbook as a consumer, gaming and entertainment device, to go head-to-head with things like the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Sony PSP and Nintendo DS(whatever). Its dependance on another Blackberry device and Blackberry subscription makes it a complete fail for consumer web, e-mail, gaming and entertainment purposes.

Thats because corporate customers already know/use/like blackberry. A Businessman spends his entire day looking at something and considering how he can use it to his advantage. He knows that the Playbook does and how it will help.

A consumer on the other hand needs to be spoon fed information, and convincing why he should by this when all his friends have an iPad.

As a result the Ad budget goes to converting consumer users who might want it, because business users are already going to buy it regardless of advertising.

Originally Posted by Blackhood

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Thats because corporate customers already know/use/like blackberry. A Businessman spends his entire day looking at something and considering how he can use it to his advantage. He knows that the Playbook does and how it will help.

A consumer on the other hand needs to be spoon fed information, and convincing why he should by this when all his friends have an iPad.

As a result the Ad budget goes to converting consumer users who might want it, because business users are already going to buy it regardless of advertising.

Exactly. People here act as if the guys at RIM are complete marsupials who haven't thought through their strategy.

Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley

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Exactly. People here act as if the guys at RIM are complete marsupials who haven't thought through their strategy.

Sometimes I wonder though....

Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley

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Exactly. People here act as if the guys at RIM are complete marsupials who haven't thought through their strategy.
Given how useless this first generation is to me, and the fact that they've already said "we'll put phone capability in later", I am not sure they're not. Why would you undercut this launch by making it a 2 stage process where the real deal drops later in the year.

My father is buying 10 for his staff to use as presentation devices. They don't need Phone capability or anything more than a few basics really. I would assume that many people are in this boat.

They might sell 500 000 units in the first 6 months. By the time they release stage two a significant portion of those people will upgrade because (1) they realised the basic one wasn't good enough or (2) Their social/economic status tells them that they need the newest version of any device they own.

They've essentially said "Hey, want a product 6 months early and are dumb enough to pay for it? Hand over the cash. In 6 months time we'll bring out a "full fat" product that you'll buy anyway!"