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I use a press and I don't notice pith bitterness but the oils are expressed nicely

I think I do have a reamer. Might have to do a taste test
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Barbancourt 8 here. No fussing around with juices!
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Peter Lehmann Clancy's 2009 Cabernet/Shiraz/Merlot blend. Very plummy but nice. nod[1].gif
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Re: reamer v press
Some argue that a press tears the pith which might add bitter elements to the juice.
It definitely does squeeze out a good amount of oils, especially if you don't want to discard the lime with 1/4 of the juice left in it. It's easier to use but whenever I'm not lazy I use this press.

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I have both a reamer and a press. The press definitely expels more of the oils, but I don't mind that. I rarely use the reamer anymore because it makes such a mess and always seems to leave half of the juice behind.
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My (very limited) understanding of this is that it's not actually the oils themselves but other elements from the pith that add bitterness.

FWIW
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Yeah, it's definitely not the oils. If it was, it would make your drink bitter every time you twisted a lemon twist.

It does make your drink much more lemon-y or lime-y. I like this, but if you are looking for more just sour-juice to add to your cocktail rather than pronounced lemon or lime flavor, I can see how that would be a problem.
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2 Flor de Cana Silver
.75 Cointreau
2 fresh grapefruit juice
2 grapefruit seltzer
Barbancourt 8yo floater

ERDM Demi Tasse
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That's the exact same thing I have
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Me too. Mine is black/chrome from WMF.
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Balvenie 15 year single barrel. Was worth picking up a bottle before they all disappear?
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@Huntsman any recs on the cognac?

 

Sorry to say that my knowledge of good cognac does not extend to cognac not exported to the U.S.

 

 

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The problem is that your bottle of 'real' lime juice may have been real for a little while, but the chemical changes that have taken place in it have really destroyed the lovely bright freshness of lime. While producers can delay oxidation by good processes, the enzymatic breakdown of the juice is unavoidable and the difference between fresh and your bottled is completely noticeable at 25% of the volume. Furthermore, if you are juicing them appropriately (with a press, not a reamer), the volatile flavor compounds that you get in the oils simply don't survive long-term contact with the high-acid juice -- and those volatiles add so much to the cocktail. I would prefer a Margarita with fresh lime and Montezuma tequila to bottled lime and a decent bianco.

There's a reason that all commercially available orange juice is from concentrate or is otherwise processed. The fresh stuff simply doesn't stay good for more than a few days, even refrigerated. It starts tasting flat and dead quickly. They pasteurize it, add perfumes and flavoring. It tastes ok if you're swilling it down in the morning, but side by side with fresh squeezed the difference is night and day.

Other citrus juices are the same way. Fresh lime has a bite and complexity that's just lost in even good commercial bottled products. If you're using good tequila and good curacao/triple sec, it doesn't make sense to let your cocktail be dragged down by a 30 cent saving and a little elbow grease with the limes.

 

Exactly with you.

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Yeah, it's definitely not the oils. If it was, it would make your drink bitter every time you twisted a lemon twist.

It does make your drink much more lemon-y or lime-y. I like this, but if you are looking for more just sour-juice to add to your cocktail rather than pronounced lemon or lime flavor, I can see how that would be a problem.

 

Yes, the oil is not generally as bitter as the compounds in the pith -- which is why twists are generally made with no pith or as little as possible. I've never really had an issue with citrus presses making the juice more bitter by tearing the pith (it usually doesn't tear anyway), but the improvement in flavor by expressing the oil into the cocktail is huge. Reamers don't express any oil into the drink. Orange juice manufacturers famously squeeze out the oils, store them separately from the juice, and add them back before bottling to give the stored juice a bit of a flavor 'lift' as it has lost so much. When I make a lemonade, I boil the skins in the simple syrup I add to the drink, which makes for a phenomenal lemonade.

 

I actually can't imagine a drink where I would want a generic sour flavor.

 

~ H

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It's not like lime juice without the oils tastes generic. I think there's nothing wrong with going either way and the cocktail dictates whether you want a more or less intense flavor. In a Dark & Stormy, or a Last Word, I think the oils are very much needed. In a Mojito, it depends on my mood--more focus on the lime or more focus on the mint and rum. (As I've said before though, I'm lazy, so I mostly use the press)
I'll do a side-by-side test today though, which I haven't done before. My current opinion is based on speculation.
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It's not like lime juice without the oils tastes generic. I think there's nothing wrong with going either way and the cocktail dictates whether you want a more or less intense flavor. In a Dark & Stormy, or a Last Word, I think the oils are very much needed. In a Mojito, it depends on my mood--more focus on the lime or more focus on the mint and rum. (As I've said before though, I'm lazy, so I mostly use the press)
I'll do a side-by-side test today though, which I haven't done before. My current opinion is based on speculation.

Yeah, this was what I meant. Some drinks really benefit from strong lemon or lime flavor, some less so. Generally, I really like the strong citrus flavor, but I have friends that do not.
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