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I'm also thinking of getting the Tempus Fugit Liqueur de Violettes. I''ve tried the Creme Yvette before and found it too syrupy with a distinct berry taste. The Rothman and Winter Creme de Violette is of course a classic of sorts.
I've read that Oliver Matter's (Tempus Fugit/Erlebnisbrennerei) Liqueur de Violettes is very different from a classic Crème de Violette. Haven't tried it yet though.
post #12827 of 14016
I like the funky. I like rhum agricoles as well. St Germain is a bullshit product used 99% of the time in bullshit applications. People call it bartenders ketchup. Put that shit on everything and the masses eat it up.
post #12828 of 14016
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I like the funky. I like rhum agricoles as well. St Germain is a bullshit product used 99% of the time in bullshit applications. People call it bartenders ketchup. Put that shit on everything and the masses eat it up.

Really? I don't see it all that often. confused.gif Certainly nowhere near often enough that I'd expect it to inspire a phrase, or hatred, like that.

And any sweet ingredient, liqueurs included, can be criminally misused pretty easily. They're sweet, so you see large quantities in frilly vodka drinks. I don't hate Chambord because some bartenders use it to make syrupy raspb-a-tinis with whipped cream vodka. I don't hate cointreau or triple sec because Applebees can't make a margarita worth a damn.

Why should any liqueur or liquor be judged on its worst representatives? Jagermeister is still a good product (if you like licorice), regardless of the lowlife scum doing shots of it.
post #12829 of 14016
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LK, I have and I love it. It is, however, dramatically different from Luxardo in that it is pure cherry with a whiff of that amaretto-like flavor as a basenote. It completely lacks that petrichor-like musty funk of the Luxardo, so I don't like it everywhere, but I do enjoy it very much.

~ H

Would it go well in an Aviation type drink?

The Aviation is one of my favorite drinks so I like the subtle variations one can make. I'm also thinking of getting the Tempus Fugit Liqueur de Violettes. I''ve tried the Creme Yvette before and found it too syrupy with a distinct berry taste. The Rothman and Winter Creme de Violette is of course a classic of sorts.

Yes. It makes a lovely, if milder and more modern Aviation so if you love the subtle variations you should try it. I say modern, because the funk of the Luxardo I
Think is not a very modern taste notion. One of the nice things about an Aviation to me is the balance of that funk with the slight floral note of the Violettes, which disappears with the Leopold Bros to be replaced with the pure cherry note which shifts the drink to the more fruity and floral end without the bit of violent basement that the Luxardo lends. My father, for instance, loves Aviations but can't stand that funk, so he really enjoys the Leopold (I turned him on to St. Germain in Aviations, which he usually uses).

I did a tasting side by side and the LB is far less sweet and syrupy. Also, where the nose of the Lux is dominated by funk, the LB is dominated by a very woody cherry scent, and the palate by concentrated cherry, whereas the cherry in the Lux is less distinct. Since you love sweet liqueurs, you should get the LB for that reason alone.

I have not used it in a Last Word, as that requires an ounce and I don't know how I will replace my bottle.

Incidentally, I think the Leopold Bros. absinthe verte is not particularly good.
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Would it go well in an Aviation type drink?

The Aviation is one of my favorite drinks so I like the subtle variations one can make. I'm also thinking of getting the Tempus Fugit Liqueur de Violettes. I''ve tried the Creme Yvette before and found it too syrupy with a distinct berry taste. The Rothman and Winter Creme de Violette is of course a classic of sorts.

I hate luxardo maraschino and most drinks with it. I've put it in the same box as st Germain. Although not as bad, by a long shot.

Geez. That's a bit of a stretch, especially as the Lux is hardly 'bartender's ketchup.'
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Rhum agricoles can also be quite funky. Perhaps some people dislike those as well.

Funny. I am drinking St. James hors d'age as I type.
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I'm also thinking of getting the Tempus Fugit Liqueur de Violettes. I''ve tried the Creme Yvette before and found it too syrupy with a distinct berry taste. The Rothman and Winter Creme de Violette is of course a classic of sorts.
I've read that Oliver Matter's (Tempus Fugit/Erlebnisbrennerei) Liqueur de Violettes is very different from a classic Crème de Violette. Haven't tried it yet though.

I have three violettes at the moment - the Rothman, Bitter Truth, and the Tempus product. I was really excited about the TF, because I dislike artificial colors and avoid them where I can (damn you, Campari), but I have not been thrilled with the Aviations I made with it. I remember it as being very floral - in general, not in a particularly violet way. I am traveling at the moment, but perhaps I'll do an Aviation taste test this weekend. Much like the Creme Yvette, I bought the TF, used it a few times, and it has since sat on the shelf.
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I like the funky. I like rhum agricoles as well. St Germain is a bullshit product used 99% of the time in bullshit applications. People call it bartenders ketchup. Put that shit on everything and the masses eat it up.

I agree with Jeff on this -the perversion of the good does not really remove the inherent good. That's just society fucking with shit. The bottle is pretty, it appeals to 'modern' tastes, ergo, it's use inspires love everywhere and without, perhaps the considered reason that a drink deserves. But that doesn't mean it's bullshit like S'mores vodka for the love of all that is holy. I've made good drinks with it, and do often use it as a substitute for Luxardo for those who can't deal with the funk. It makes a great sub in that role in the Aviation.

- H
post #12830 of 14016
Knob Creek Single Barrel. I found a store that had it on sale for $19.99. I felt obliged to pick up a few.
post #12831 of 14016
Barbancourt ***** 8yo daiquiri with agave nectar. Seems to add a little more body than ss or sugar.
Edited by cocostella - 9/7/13 at 9:21pm
post #12832 of 14016
Wiser 18. This, and Wiser Legacy were my favorite drinks this summer. Have gone through several bottles of each. I've found that it's true for me, that peaty scotch isn't that interesting in the hot weather (even sitting in an air conditioned room).
post #12833 of 14016

a cup of coffee.

post #12834 of 14016

A gin and tonic with Beefeater gin and Liber & Co. tonic syrup-- great stuff.

 

It adds complexity and intrigue without overpowering or clouding the gin... just nicely props up the Beefeater.

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Gah, I do not like the Bitter Truth Violette in an Aviation, at least not anywhere near the 3/8 oz that I would use of R&W.


~ H

post #12836 of 14016
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Gah, I do not like the Bitter Truth Violette in an Aviation, at least not anywhere near the 3/8 oz that I would use of R&W.


~ H
Should have listened to me. The violet notes are just way to weak. To get the proper violet note, you both dilute and over-sweeten the drink. It sucks. Mario Kappes from Le Lion shared the opinion.
post #12837 of 14016
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Gah, I do not like the Bitter Truth Violette in an Aviation, at least not anywhere near the 3/8 oz that I would use of R&W.


~ H
Should have listened to me. The violet notes are just way to weak. To get the proper violet note, you both dilute and over-sweeten the drink. It sucks. Mario Kappes from Le Lion shared the opinion.

Damn. I don't recall the advice, but it is entirely correct. And though I always dislike artificial color, it was particularly awful.
post #12838 of 14016
Sidecar
Sculpin draft
Some random ok Armagnac
post #12839 of 14016
Anyone here with experience with old stuff...I just bought a couple of bottles of Bourbon from the 1930s. Supposedly these were distilled illegally during prohibition, and bottled after at one of Capone's distilleries...I do plan on opening and drinking, but wondering if its safe to. Would love to hear thoughts....
post #12840 of 14016
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Anyone here with experience with old stuff...I just bought a couple of bottles of Bourbon from the 1930s. Supposedly these were distilled illegally during prohibition, and bottled after at one of Capone's distilleries...I do plan on opening and drinking, but wondering if its safe to. Would love to hear thoughts....

illegal whiskey was notorious for being adulterated with other alcohols that could be harmful, but they were generally in low enough concentrations that the harmful effects would only be felt with repeated exposure. After all, if you kill your customers you can't make any money. I'd say give it a shot. The chances that it will be great are low but not too many people still living can say they had whiskey bottled during prohibition.
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