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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Always meant to try some of that Bluecoat stuff since it's ubiquitous in Philly. Any good? Is it one of those weak gins aimed at vodka drinkers?

It's certainly not a faux-vodka. Not a juniper bomb, but it's got plenty of botanicals. So far tried a little bit straight, the Negroni, and working on a martini now. It held up well to the Campari in the Negroni. The citrus profile really worked well there. Perhaps not my favorite in the martini but it's still good.

Been on a gin kick recently, after drinking almost exclusively Hendricks for a long time. Went through Citadelle, Plymouth, The Botanist Islay Dry, and now this. Plymouth earned a permanent spot on my shelf, still trying to decide about the others. Citadelle was good but nothing spectacular.


It's funny, I never get surprised about how quickly I'm going through whisk(e)y, but sometimes a bottle of gin will just evaporate. I went through a bottle of Plymouth in a week and had no idea. I think I can blame my wife, she doesn't drink whiskey but loves gin. I end up making double batches of cocktails and it just walks off.
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Did you like the Botanist? I sell it but haven't gotten to taste it.
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PM me a link to your book. I wanna see what you guys carry.
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Did you like the Botanist? I sell it but haven't gotten to taste it.

Like it, makes a very nice martini. Smooth, good mouthfeel, plays well with vermouth. No one note stands out to me, got a lot going on.


I have a hard time ranking gin. I stuck with Hendricks for a long time, then Plymouth really jumped out at me (obviously a different style). Most of the others have been "good" but I can't really distinguish beyond that. Some of them work better in certain cocktails than others, and I'm trying to nail that down. I feel like Botanist is very balanced and wouldn't not work in most things, but might not shine especially. Makes a better martini than the Bluecoat, but the Bluecoat was better in a Negroni.
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Always meant to try some of that Bluecoat stuff since it's ubiquitous in Philly. Any good? Is it one of those weak gins aimed at vodka drinkers?

It's a good, serious gin. Made in Philly IIRC, which might be why it's so ubiquitous there.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I have a hard time ranking gin. I stuck with Hendricks for a long time, then Plymouth really jumped out at me (obviously a different style). Most of the others have been "good" but I can't really distinguish beyond that. Some of them work better in certain cocktails than others, and I'm trying to nail that down. I feel like Botanist is very balanced and wouldn't not work in most things, but might not shine especially. Makes a better martini than the Bluecoat, but the Bluecoat was better in a Negroni.

Gin isn't really, IMO, something that can really be ranked. Once you meet a certain threshold in quality, it's just about the different taste profiles. Where something like whiskey generally gets better with more aging and skilled blending, gin is pretty cheap and easy to make with no aging required, and adhering to the recipe keeps the flavor consistent. So you can have a $20 spirit like Beefeater or Brokers that stands up perfectly ably against spirits twice the price, and stuff like Gordons that's simultaneously a bottom shelf option and something that somebody serious about spirits wouldn't mind drinking. It's wonderfully democratic.
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El Dorado is nice but pricey compared to its (better peers). For 15 I prefer Barboncourt and when you get into 18-21 year range, I prefer Don Abuelo and Zafra. Zafra 21 is my favorite rum right now.

Interesting. Do you not like the sweeter rums? All three of those are definitely lower on the sweetometer.
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Gibonius, have you had Citadelle Résérve?
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

Gibonius, have you had Citadelle Résérve?

They have a reserve? I've been a big proponent of Citadelle since I tried it last year.
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Yes, IIRC it's aged for six months. The regular is about € 22 while the Réserve is € 35, which is one of the reasons why I haven't tried it yet.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Looking forward to trying it. I have a couple of friends who will enjoy it, so I'll open it when they are over.

When should I arrive?
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

Gin isn't really, IMO, something that can really be ranked. Once you meet a certain threshold in quality, it's just about the different taste profiles. Where something like whiskey generally gets better with more aging and skilled blending, gin is pretty cheap and easy to make with no aging required, and adhering to the recipe keeps the flavor consistent. So you can have a $20 spirit like Beefeater or Brokers that stands up perfectly ably against spirits twice the price, and stuff like Gordons that's simultaneously a bottom shelf option and something that somebody serious about spirits wouldn't mind drinking. It's wonderfully democratic.

Well put. The flavor profiles are especially important for cocktails, which is the primary usage of gin. Some gins just don't work in certain cocktails, while working wonderfully in others. I had been trying to get into Negronis and just couldn't stand them, turned out it was just because the Hendricks didn't work right (for me anyway). Throw in a different gin and they're great.

That's one strike against The Botanist. I got it on sale for $31, which is fine. It usually runs $40, and I can't see much reason to pay that. Plymouth I don't mind the mid-$30s for, just because it's unique. I think I'm going to try some cheaper options for awhile, whole bunch I've never tried. I've done Bombay and Tanqueray, but never really tried Beefeater, Brokers, even Seagrams. Not a big fan of Gordons, but that may just be from not knowing how to make proper drinks in college.
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

Gibonius, have you had Citadelle Résérve?

It's not available around here, so I haven't gone out of my way to get any.


My biggest complaint about Citadelle was that the bottle was too damn tall. Would only fit on the top shelf of my liquor cabinet. happy.gif
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I think I'm going to try some cheaper options for awhile, whole bunch I've never tried. I've done Bombay and Tanqueray, but never really tried Beefeater, Brokers, even Seagrams. Not a big fan of Gordons, but that may just be from not knowing how to make proper drinks in college.

Gib, I was devastated when Plymouth went up to $45, as it was my go to at $27. Since then I have been trying different cheaper options to find a replacement. These have included Broker's, Citadelle, and Greenall's recently. I have settled on Broker's for now but am always willing to try something new if it becomes available.
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I've been buying handles of Citadelle for $40. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

My biggest complaint about Citadelle was that the bottle was too damn tall. Would only fit on the top shelf of my liquor cabinet. happy.gif
Luxardo is the worst.

Re: Gin, I've also settled on Broker's. Best QPR I've encontered so far. Beefeater's is € 19 per litre, which is great, but Broker's is just € 2 more (both 94 proof), and well worth the small markup imo.
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