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OH SNAP!

"The Fab Five," an ESPN film about the Michigan basketball careers of Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson from 1991 to 1993, was broadcast for the first time Sunday night. In the show, Rose, the show's executive producer, stated that Duke recruited only black players he considered to be "Uncle Toms." Grant Hill, a player on the Duke team that beat Michigan in the 1992 Final Four, reflected on Rose's comments.

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I am a fan, friend and longtime competitor of the Fab Five. I have competed against Jalen Rose and Chris Webber since the age of 13. At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way. The very idea of the Fab Five elicited pride and promise in much the same way the Georgetown teams did in the mid-1980s when I was in high school and idolized them. Their journey from youthful icons to successful men today is a road map for so many young, black men (and women) who saw their journey through the powerful documentary, "The Fab Five."

It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke "Uncle Toms" and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me. I should have guessed there was something regrettable in the documentary when I received a Twitter apology from Jalen before its premiere. I am aware Jalen has gone to some length to explain his remarks about my family in numerous interviews, so I believe he has some admiration for them.

In his garbled but sweeping comment that Duke recruits only "black players that were "˜Uncle Toms,' " Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today.

I am beyond fortunate to have two parents who are still working well into their 60s. They received great educations and use them every day. My parents taught me a personal ethic I try to live by and pass on to my children.

I come from a strong legacy of black Americans. My namesake, Henry Hill, my father's father, was a day laborer in Baltimore. He could not read or write until he was taught to do so by my grandmother. His first present to my dad was a set of encyclopedias, which I now have. He wanted his only child, my father, to have a good education, so he made numerous sacrifices to see that he got an education, including attending Yale.

This is part of our great tradition as black Americans. We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them. Jalen's mother is part of our great black tradition and made the same sacrifices for him.

My teammates at Duke "” all of them, black and white "” were a band of brothers who came together to play at the highest level for the best coach in basketball. I know most of the black players who preceded and followed me at Duke. They all contribute to our tradition of excellence on the court.

It is insulting and ignorant to suggest that men like Johnny Dawkins (coach at Stanford), Tommy Amaker (coach at Harvard), Billy King (general manager of the Nets), Tony Lang (coach of the Mitsubishi Diamond Dolphins in Japan), Thomas Hill (small-business owner in Texas), Jeff Capel (former coach at Oklahoma and Virginia Commonwealth), Kenny Blakeney (assistant coach at Harvard), Jay Williams (ESPN analyst), Shane Battier (Memphis Grizzlies) and Chris Duhon (Orlando Magic) ever sold out their race.

To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous. All of us are extremely proud of the current Duke team, especially Nolan Smith. He was raised by his mother, plays in memory of his late father and carries himself with the pride and confidence that they instilled in him.

The sacrifice, the effort, the education and the friendships I experienced in my four years are cherished. The many Duke graduates I have met around the world are also my "family," and they are a special group of people. A good education is a privilege.

Just as Jalen has founded a charter school in Michigan, we are expected to use our education to help others, to improve life for those who need our assistance and to use the excellent education we have received to better the world.

A highlight of my time at Duke was getting to know the great John Hope Franklin, John B. Duke Professor of History and the leading scholar of the last century on the total history of African-Americans in this country. His insights and perspectives contributed significantly to my overall development and helped me understand myself, my forefathers and my place in the world.

Ad ingenium faciendum, toward the building of character, is a phrase I recently heard. To me, it is the essence of an educational experience. Struggling, succeeding, trying again and having fun within a nurturing but competitive environment built character in all of us, including every black graduate of Duke.

My mother always says, "You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense." As we get older, we understand the importance of these words. Adulthood is nothing but a series of choices: you can say yes or no, but you cannot avoid saying one or the other. In the end, those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them.

I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons.

I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.

Grant Henry Hill
Phoenix Suns
Duke "˜94
post #2 of 76
Kept it classy, even at the end. Another reason to like Grant Hill.
post #3 of 76
Yeah it was a major fail calling the good brother Grant Hill an Uncle Tom. Fortunately, it wasn't a wide spread view point as I went to an all Black high school and heard nothing of the sort.
post #4 of 76
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I must say though that is not a hood quote:
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My mother always says, “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.”
post #5 of 76
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post
I must say though that is not a hood quote:

I think it is or atleast a down home country sort of outlook. I wonder where his mother is from.
post #6 of 76
Wow.....That was a looooonnnnnggggggg quote from Grant H!
post #7 of 76
I admit Grant hill is a classy guy, but I hated the way he played when he was on the Pistons. I thought he was way too soft. Like all other Michigan fans, I hated him and all the other Duke players but deep down we all knew how good they were.
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post
I must say though that is not a hood quote:

Chaucer is so hood.

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I admit Grant hill is a classy guy, but I hated the way he played when he was on the Pistons. I thought he was way too soft. Like all other Michigan fans, I hated him and all the other Duke players but deep down we all knew how good they were.

By all accounts he is a nice guy and obviously Duke is not one of the meat markets that just recruits players, whether they can read or not, so he is also a smart guy but for whatever reason, as a player, he came off as an asshole to me. So did Laettner. Johnny Dawkins was the exact opposite. Can't explain why.
post #9 of 76
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post
Chaucer is so hood.

Hood prose.

Let's not also forget a fine Canadian:

post #10 of 76
That was one of the whitest quotes I've ever read.
post #11 of 76
from what i saw in 30 for 30, Rose merely-and honestly-stated his feelings toward the black Duke players from his 18-19 year old perspective. Maybe it was a snide point of view due to the jealousy he admitted he had for Hill's upbringing or just a way to fuel some hate for a competitive edge, who knows.

It doesn't seem to me that Rose still thinks holds the same view as an adult
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Originally Posted by bullethead View Post
from what i saw in 30 for 30, Rose merely-and honestly-stated his feelings toward the black Duke players from his 18-19 year old perspective. Maybe it was a snide point of view due to the jealousy he admitted he had for Hill's upbringing or just a way to fuel some hate for a competitive edge, who knows.

It doesn't seem to me that Rose still thinks holds the same view as an adult


This
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Originally Posted by bullethead View Post
from what i saw in 30 for 30, Rose merely-and honestly-stated his feelings toward the black Duke players from his 18-19 year old perspective. Maybe it was a snide point of view due to the jealousy he admitted he had for Hill's upbringing or just a way to fuel some hate for a competitive edge, who knows.

It doesn't seem to me that Rose still thinks holds the same view as an adult

i saw the fab 5 espn film and i gathered the same thing. they were just being honest about how they felt at the time and the thoughts they had. Jalen rose is no where as ignorant as the topic suggests and i like his commentary on sports he has one of the coolest and most sensible heads in media.
it was a great program. made me tear up a little near the end. jimmy king's commentary was very powerful. he had some great words and a great way of speaking that hit you emotionally.
post #14 of 76
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I admit Grant hill is a classy guy, but I hated the way he played when he was on the Pistons. I thought he was way too soft. Like all other Michigan fans, I hated him and all the other Duke players but deep down we all knew how good they were.

Soft!

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Originally Posted by bullethead View Post
from what i saw in 30 for 30, Rose merely-and honestly-stated his feelings toward the black Duke players from his 18-19 year old perspective. Maybe it was a snide point of view due to the jealousy he admitted he had for Hill's upbringing or just a way to fuel some hate for a competitive edge, who knows.

It doesn't seem to me that Rose still thinks holds the same view as an adult

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Originally Posted by gladhands View Post
This

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Relax, Grant.

Where's Christian Laettner's response to the "overrated pussy" comment. Or is his silence an admission of guilt?
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