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post #16 of 27
MIC, are you serious? I think the fit is amazing. Ken tends to make a lot of jeans look good, but these are exceptionally nice. Ken, are those S0505XX? Lastly, I've seen some jeans which come with selvage bigger than that uberselvage you created, as hard as it is to believe. Julian Red Californias from a couple seasons ago have a huge selvage with a really fat redline too.
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant
They look very good - except for the pockets. They're too low and to the sides, and unfortunately there probably is no good fix for that. It would appear that, unaltered, the pair was for a man with not only thicker legs but a large seat.

Those observations might be true if it were trousers, but they are denim. The back pockets on jeans are supposed to be to the sides slightly, to make is easier to reach your wallet, and they are usually made a bit low to enhance the look, believe it or not. Jeans are supposed to convey a more casual, relaxed and sexy vibe, where traditional trousers are made to present more of a formal, almost businesslike vibe, which is why you see the back rise and pockets being set differently than on most jeans.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by Brian SD
Lastly, I've seen some jeans which come with selvage bigger than that uberselvage you created, as hard as it is to believe. Julian Red Californias from a couple seasons ago have a huge selvage with a really fat redline too.

Then I must surge forward, and make my selvage even grander!

They're s5000vx; alot bigger in the thighs than I anticipated (didn't shrink as much as my other shrink-to-fits). Fits great in the waist and seat, though.

thanks all for the replies
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant
They look very good - except for the pockets. They're too low and to the sides, and unfortunately there probably is no good fix for that. It would appear that, unaltered, the pair was for a man with not only thicker legs but a large seat.

I guess that I can see the part about the pockets being a little too far to the sides. I know that this is just a personal preference, but I'm not a huge fan of Lee repros for precisely this reason.

However, the pockets being too low comment is just off. Those back pockets are actually set reasonably high compared to a lot of other jeans back pockets. No one except for Kevin Costner and people who you might suspect of admiring Kevin Costner wears jeans with higher back pockets. Well, I guess that real cowboys might be the exception. In any case, for men's jeans, the back pockets are designed to sit low in the back. This is one of the things that a lot of higher end conservative brands who have no history of making jeans (see Zegna and Borrelli) screw up when they try. Other issues aside, the back pockets are set way, way too high, especially with the typically higher rise of those jeans, making the viewer (whether consciously or unconsciously,) do a double take and observe "Those jeans do not look right somehow." Of course, the people who would wear Borrelli jeans are blissfully unaware that they just paid $400+ to look stupid, not unlike the guys wearing a full zip BAPE "shark" hoodie who think that they look the business as well.
post #20 of 27
Looks good.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by LA Guy
I guess that I can see the part about the pockets being a little too far to the sides. I know that this is just a personal preference, but I'm not a huge fan of Lee repros for precisely this reason.

However, the pockets being too low comment is just off. Those back pockets are actually set reasonably high compared to a lot of other jeans back pockets. No one except for Kevin Costner and people who you might suspect of admiring Kevin Costner wears jeans with higher back pockets. Well, I guess that real cowboys might be the exception. In any case, for men's jeans, the back pockets are designed to sit low in the back. This is one of the things that a lot of higher end conservative brands who have no history of making jeans (see Zegna and Borrelli) screw up when they try. Other issues aside, the back pockets are set way, way too high, especially with the typically higher rise of those jeans, making the viewer (whether consciously or unconsciously,) do a double take and observe "Those jeans do not look right somehow." Of course, the people who would wear Borrelli jeans are blissfully unaware that they just paid $400+ to look stupid, not unlike the guys wearing a full zip BAPE "shark" hoodie who think that they look the business as well.

That's opinion from a denimhead and not necessarily a typical perspective on the street. (If the jeans have high pockets and fit snugly on the rear, then, yes, the typical observer might think, on some level, it's a man built like a woman.)

The pair of jeans posted flatters one part while making another look bad. That is strange. Anti-fit, relaxed fit, slim fit - they are meant to be consistent. Unmodified, the pair likely wouldn't raise eyebrows, but the slimmer legs and horizontal position of the pockets draw attention to the pockets' extending beyond the behind. ("Fabulous fit" is about mimicking the ideal body, or dictating an ideal by the shape of the clothes. An ideal body doesn't have a butt that, compared to the legs, is disproportionately small and lumpy. And highlighting just the butt, just the breasts, etc., is never right.) Inevitably, someone will point to another picture showing the same thing, but "what is" does not equal "what ought to be."

Also, to digress, negative associations with higher pockets on high-waisted jeans worn by middle-aged men probably have a lot to do with physical characteristics of middle-aged men, i.e., there's nothing inherently wrong with higher pockets.

Apologies to the original poster for turning the discussion into this.
post #22 of 27
i need cliff notes
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant
Apologies to the original poster for turning the discussion into this.
It's cool. My butt is actually quite lumpy. My "lovely manly lumps," if you will. And, I'm sure you will.
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by ken
It's cool. My butt is actually quite lumpy.
My "lovely manly lumps," if you will. And, I'm sure you will.

Oi, unnecessary visual image early in the day.
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by LA Guy
I guess that I can see the part about the pockets being a little too far to the sides. I know that this is just a personal preference, but I'm not a huge fan of Lee repros for precisely this reason.

However, the pockets being too low comment is just off. Those back pockets are actually set reasonably high compared to a lot of other jeans back pockets. No one except for Kevin Costner and people who you might suspect of admiring Kevin Costner wears jeans with higher back pockets. Well, I guess that real cowboys might be the exception. In any case, for men's jeans, the back pockets are designed to sit low in the back. This is one of the things that a lot of higher end conservative brands who have no history of making jeans (see Zegna and Borrelli) screw up when they try. Other issues aside, the back pockets are set way, way too high, especially with the typically higher rise of those jeans, making the viewer (whether consciously or unconsciously,) do a double take and observe "Those jeans do not look right somehow." Of course, the people who would wear Borrelli jeans are blissfully unaware that they just paid $400+ to look stupid, not unlike the guys wearing a full zip BAPE "shark" hoodie who think that they look the business as well.


If you look at most of the models wearing repros on bears the pockets seem to be set quite high on the rear which is quite normal for jeans i think. The problem with alot of modern jeans, like nudie for example, is the pockets seem to go halfway down your leg.
post #26 of 27
Yeah I really don't like back pockets that are too low, myself. I guess it's just a personal thing with my own legs....they're not exactly what you'd call "long", so the lower/longer the back pockets, it seems the more that emphasizes the shortness of my legs. But now you're making me self-concious about the placement of all my back pockets, argg! I just got a pair yesterday and the pockets don't go much below ma' butt at all.
post #27 of 27
Whatever guys, those jeans make his legs and ass look hot (yeah, I said it, someone had to!)
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