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post #211 of 326
i have the boots in cordovan they are 19008 aand i have the cherry cordovan and the number is 19007-602
post #212 of 326
I received a pair of Florsheim/Duckie Brown black wingtip boots today.

The shoes are from Neiman Marcus, clearly labeled as shell cordovan both by Neiman and also on the box. It literally says "leather: shell cordovan. color: black."

- no Horween stamp
- neither feels nor smells like any cordovan shoe I have handled previously
- appears to be lacquered, painted, or something. There are fine lines near the peak of the wing tip. I touched it with my nail and some paint or lacquer came off.

I've got an email in to Florsheim to see what they have to say.
post #213 of 326
Thread Starter 
sounds identical to my shoes^
post #214 of 326
I smell a class action lawsuit!!!! Any lawyers around here?

Sue the bastards!!!!
post #215 of 326
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sounds identical to my shoes^

I know the seller labeled yours cordovan - did the box say it as well?
post #216 of 326

 

 

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Cladmen.com
If you appreciate fine footwear, then these shoes are for you. They're built to stand the test of time in both construction and style.


Ha, this thread was like a great book -- or it was like a party in my mouth with everyone throwing up. It was a good read, that's for sure.

 

Looking at all these issues it was funny to read this description of some non-shell DB shoes on Cladmen.

 

http://www.cladmen.com/on-sale/footwear/the-brogue-15.html

post #217 of 326
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

sounds identical to my shoes^

Same as mine. Who is the culprit ? Is it gilt or DB ??
post #218 of 326
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Same as mine. Who is the culprit ? Is it gilt or DB ??

I paid $300 for mine, which sounded like a great deal with the original was near $700. Truthfully, I would have disappointed if these were $99 clearance specials from Nordstrom Rack that weren't advertised as cordovan. These things, even if advertised as calf, are painted pieces of junk.

While I'm unhappy with the shoes being advertised as shell cordovan, I doubt Neiman Marcus or Gilt is doing any intense research to confirm that ANY shoe is constructed as the manufacturer says it is.

So, with that in mind, I beleive the blame rests solely on Florsheim and Duckie Brown.
post #219 of 326
Thread Starter 
I'm waiting to hear from DB and Gilt. Interested to see what they say
post #220 of 326
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I'm waiting to hear from DB and Gilt. Interested to see what they say

Namor, do you recall anything like this with the tan shell from Brooks Brothers that you started this thread with? I mean the painting, not the dark splotches. I have those shoe, and mine do not seem to be painted.. But I should triple check again.

Also, this coding thing has me wondering. Is it possible that the product codes I found on the DB website are not exclusive to shell, although they appear that way? Or did they screw up a batch? Seems very odd.
post #221 of 326
Thread Starter 
I've owned that particular model on two separate occasions and it is unequivocally shell cordovan.
post #222 of 326
if anyone wants the navy cordovan in a boot at a great price, pm me
post #223 of 326
I've been speaking with Tom Florsheim about the issue. He said those branded as shell cordovan are indeed shell cordovan sourced from Horween. They did not include Horween stamps until approximately 9 months ago, so those shoes in shell without a stamp are somewhat old (which explains the lack of richness to the leather). There is a "finish" on the leather which should not crack and he described as specifically not like paint. He said it was made with the cooperation of Horween.

This certainly doesn't change the quality of the boots sitting in my apartment, but I do appreciate his responsiveness.
post #224 of 326
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I've been speaking with Tom Florsheim about the issue. He said those branded as shell cordovan are indeed shell cordovan sourced from Horween. They did not include Horween stamps until approximately 9 months ago, so those shoes in shell without a stamp are somewhat old (which explains the lack of richness to the leather). There is a "finish" on the leather which should not crack and he described as specifically not like paint. He said it was made with the cooperation of Horween.
This certainly doesn't change the quality of the boots sitting in my apartment, but I do appreciate his responsiveness.

Thanks for sharing the insight with us. Honestly I am still not convinced. I smell a little bit of cover-ups. Like when they said there is a “Finish” . Never hard of a Finish on cordovan. And how will they explain why 2 pairs of same model number completely different ? and also how about the flaking paint ?
I have emailed gilt with pictures and waiting for a reply.
post #225 of 326
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Thanks for sharing the insight with us. Honestly I am still not convinced. I smell a little bit of cover-ups. Like when they said there is a “Finish” . Never hard of a Finish on cordovan. And how will they explain why 2 pairs of same model number completely different ? and also how about the flaking paint ?
I have emailed gilt with pictures and waiting for a reply.

Alden paints purple dye on all their #8 shells.
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