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post #766 of 1208

I appreciate the input. I like to wear things that FIT me you know, not too baggy. The jeans are American Eagle. But ofcourse Ill check them out! This is my whole xmas makeover Dont want to look like a teen no more Im 19yo 

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Originally Posted by Alexei Bublik View Post

I appreciate the input. I like to wear things that FIT me you know, not too baggy. The jeans are American Eagle. But ofcourse Ill check them out! This is my whole xmas makeover Dont want to look like a teen no more Im 19yo

Which is exactly why you should listen to my advice wink.gif

post #768 of 1208
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what product should I use to style that because I dont want to have too much of a wet goopy gel look or at least I dont want my hair to stiff up like it usually does with gel. Although its lovely 

I am partial to redken products. I think maneuver wax would work well once your hair is to length. Wont be a stiff clump like with gels. If you have dry hair you might just mix a slight dab of pomade just to give some shine or oils into your hair, again only if your hair is dry.

Its tough to tell an exact brand because budgets vary. There are certainly much better more natural alternatives with bigger price tags which some may work or may not. I think the advice above to ask a stylist is your best option to get a feel for things and experiment.
post #769 of 1208
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Originally Posted by bmathe02 View Post


I am partial to redken products. I think maneuver wax would work well once your hair is to length. Wont be a stiff clump like with gels. If you have dry hair you might just mix a slight dab of pomade just to give some shine or oils into your hair, again only if your hair is dry.
Its tough to tell an exact brand because budgets vary. There are certainly much better more natural alternatives with bigger price tags which some may work or may not. I think the advice above to ask a stylist is your best option to get a feel for things and experiment.

 

 

I wanna build on this and ask if anyone knows of a product that doesn't really have much shine.  I want it to look natural but hold effectively.
post #770 of 1208

When it comes to hair products I recently started using 'Wella' -- The line of hair products has a lot of things for leave-ins such as leave-in conditioner or possibly molding gels with a medium hold and that's something I like, I will use their products and then as time goes on my hair wont look like its been gel'd but I can still mold it into a certain style freely. Another brand of products I like would be the Paul Mitchell Tea-Tree, along with Wella they make similar shampoo and conditioner products so I think you should check them out and see how you feel about them, I always just wash the hair with the shampoo let the conditioner chill in my hair for a bit then when I get out put in some Wella straight leave in cream while my hair is still kind of wet go to bed wake up and I'm golden to style my hair -- Keep in mind though if you do something like that you might want to make sure your hair is not in a crazy style or when you go to bed and wake up you might be stuck with it ha ha. 

 

http://www.wella.com/en-US/home.aspx (Wella)

http://www.paulmitchell.com/en-us/products/TeaTree/Pages/Home.aspx (Paul Mitchell)

 

You should check this stuff out and give it a shot! 

post #771 of 1208
Wow this thread is terrible.. but. What can i use with combination of Murrays pomade to get a shinier look? Murrays only stays shiny for 2 hours or so.. I guess I could use something like layrite high scheen pomade with some murrays for the hold?
post #772 of 1208

Yes! Hair! I have so many questions for the guys! I am a woman with a short, pixi hair cut. I think it looks great and really flatters my features. My boyfriend, however, wants me to grow long, mermaid hair that he can run his hands through. I told him that my hair, when long, is so thick and curly that I look like a country singer that's been electrocuted. He is not to be swayed that I should grow my hair out. So my hair-related questions are these: why do guys want long hair when you look great with short hair? And if I should begin the growth process, how do I cope with my feelings of self loathing when I see awkward and hideous growth stages? I don't want '90s hair!! Thoughts?
 

post #773 of 1208
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Ok people, I have been doing a lot of research about hair and reading a lot of blogs and forums that girls post in. I am reading forums and blogs written by and for primarily curly, or wavy haired girls and I have learned a ton. CalTex, this will probably be useful for you. Basically I have been looking for a haircare routine that allows my hair to be more natural and controlled so I don't have to use as much product in the morning and such. Something a bit easier. This is what I learned:
1. Stop shampooing with sulfate based shampoo.
The majority of shampoos are made with detergents and not actual soap. These ingredients are sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium laureth sulfate, amonium lauryl sulfate, or amonium laureth sulfate. These were invented by the Germans during World War II because there was a soap shortage. These synthetic surfactants are what makes these products "foam-up". Basically they allow water and oils to mix so they can be rinsed away. There is a lot of hippy talk about these things and how they cause cancer, but it has never been proven. There are some things that have been proven, however. Sulfate based shampoos are a mild irritant, espcially in higher concentrations and if not rinsed properly. Sulfate based shampoos cause hair to fall out. If you loose a lot of hair in the shower, this could be the cause, not male pattern baldness. Sulfate shampoos strip your hair and wash away all natural and unnatural oils. These things are great at what they do and they are cheap that is why they are in products. The problem is you are washing away tons and tons of oils that your hair needs to look great. The ironic thing is many of these shampoos also have extracts of plant oils and moisturizers, but in reality it is bullshit because as soon as you lather up you're washing it right away. Most of the cheaper brand smoothing shampoos are using silicones to coat the hair to make it smooth. Some of them work ok, but they are very difficult to remove once on your hair, that is why they are usually added to the smoothing shampoos along with sulfates, which have a more difficult time removing them.
Now a lot of conditioners also contain smaller amounts of sulfates so read your ingredients.
A lot of brands are now making sulfate free shampoos so look for them, there is a brand called Kinky Curly that curly haired girls "in the know" go apeshit for. Get this. The issue most people have with these are the lack of foam, since there isn't any foaming agent people feeltheir hair isn't getting clean. Ignore this and keep at it. A lot of girl's out there make their own shampoo out of a simple home mixture of baking soda and water. Some swear by this.
I personally use Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Castile Soap, which bings me to my next point about sulfates and soaps. Castile soap is what it is: Soap. It is called castile after the region it was developed in Spain and it is obtained by saponifying oils from plants using lye to create soap naturally. Here is the issue, using these kinds of soap, especially with very hard water sources with minerals and such in it can leave your hair feeling tangly and or waxy. What this is is slight buildup. This buildup can remain on your hair and furthermore in your tub and in your drains, this buildup is what people end up calling "soapscum". Sulfates don't have this because they strip everything away, however there is a solution for this. The solution lies in the conditioner, which is my next point:
2. Use an acidic rinse after using castile soap
You can use the non-sulfate conditoner if you are using a non-sulfate shampoo, but for castile the Dr. Bronner's Shikakai Conditioning Rinse works wonders. Since you washed with castile you need to get the buildup off of your hair and make it smooth. You do this with a solution that is slightly acidic. Acidic solutions don't only just strip buildup they also close the shafts of your hair strands making it lay better and much smoother. A lot of girls make their own apple cider vinegar and water solution and pour it slowly over their heads while massaging their scalp and combing it through their hair in the shower. The Bronner's Rinse is mainly lemon juice, shikakai powder, which has been used on hair for centuries in India and plant oils. Now vinegar has a PH of about 5 and the lemon juice about 2 or 3 so you can imagine the smoothing properties these ingredients have on your hair.
3. Stop shampooing your hair so much
Yes, a lot of people know that their hair feels nicer, or behaves better when it isn't dry from shampoo (sulfates), but these girls, and now myself included, are shampooing even more infrequently like only when really needed, around once every two or three weeks. Two are three weeks!?!?! You scream! Calm down. Girls who go the sulfate free conditioner route literally condition everyday, but what they do is scrub the hell out of their scalps while the conditioner is in their hair, not using their nails but their fingertips and very hard and long time. What others do it use their rinse daily and scrub with the vingear/water, or Bronner's rinse. What is great about this is the low PH kills bacteria that can cause dandruff and the scrubbing helps move dirt away.
I understand this all sounds strange and gross, but it isn't really. There are so many girls following this routine. Think Style Forum, but only girls talking about this kind of stuff. It was all started by this woman Lorraine Massey in NYC who popularized this sulfate-free/no shampooing thing in her salon and actually wrote a book about it.
What I do:
1) Shampoo with Dr. Bronner's Tea Tre Oil Castile soap
2) Repeat
3) Pour the solution of Dr. Bronner's Conditioning Rinse over my head and massage scalp and comb through hair
4) Rinse
5) Repeat step #3 and leave in and finish the rest of my shower routine before rinsing
On following days I just do steps #3 through #5 and only go back to step #1 when absolutely necassary.
Sources
http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/curly%20hair%20basics.htm
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/
http://thecurlyhairproblems.tumblr.com/cgmethod
http://www.wikihow.com/Follow-the-Curly-Girl-Method-for-Curly-Hair

just wana say ty for this
post #774 of 1208

Double thanks. Switched to this exact regimen about two weeks ago, and loving it. Another note about sulfates, they're also in most toothpastes, and a common cause of canker sores (which is why I switched toothpastes over 10 years ago). They're bad news all around.

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

1. Stop shampooing with sulfate based shampoo.
 
2. Use an acidic rinse after using castile soap
 
3. Stop shampooing your hair so much
 
What I do:
1) Shampoo with Dr. Bronner's Tea Tre Oil Castile soap
2) Repeat
3) Pour the solution of Dr. Bronner's Conditioning Rinse over my head and massage scalp and comb through hair
4) Rinse
5) Repeat step #3 and leave in and finish the rest of my shower routine before rinsing
On following days I just do steps #3 through #5 and only go back to step #1 when absolutely necassary.
Sources
http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/curly%20hair%20basics.htm
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/
http://thecurlyhairproblems.tumblr.com/cgmethod
http://www.wikihow.com/Follow-the-Curly-Girl-Method-for-Curly-Hair

Should I do the same with straight hair which stands up plus is the Dr. Bronner stuff the best you tried (are you talking about this conditioner: http://www.amazon.com/Bronners-Magic-Shikakai-Conditioning-Organic/dp/B0017QT5UM/ref=pd_sim_bt_4)?


Edited by herp - 12/25/12 at 8:41am
post #776 of 1208
looking to purchase a new pomade

my aim is for something that has at least a medium hold, must be water soluble, and doesn't harden why dry...the cheaper the better
post #777 of 1208
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Wow this thread is terrible.. but. What can i use with combination of Murrays pomade to get a shinier look? Murrays only stays shiny for 2 hours or so.. I guess I could use something like layrite high scheen pomade with some murrays for the hold?

Try American Crew Grooming Cream, shiny as fuck. Or also Brylcreem or Dax.
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Originally Posted by Mere View Post

Yes! Hair! I have so many questions for the guys! I am a woman with a short, pixi hair cut. I think it looks great and really flatters my features. My boyfriend, however, wants me to grow long, mermaid hair that he can run his hands through. I told him that my hair, when long, is so thick and curly that I look like a country singer that's been electrocuted. He is not to be swayed that I should grow my hair out. So my hair-related questions are these: why do guys want long hair when you look great with short hair? And if I should begin the growth process, how do I cope with my feelings of self loathing when I see awkward and hideous growth stages? I don't want '90s hair!! Thoughts?

 

Get a new boyfriend, pixies rule.
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

just wana say ty for this

Hey, no problem.
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Originally Posted by herp View Post

Should I do the same with straight hair which stands up plus is the Dr. Bronner stuff the best you tried (are you talking about this conditioner: http://www.amazon.com/Bronners-Magic-Shikakai-Conditioning-Organic/dp/B0017QT5UM/ref=pd_sim_bt_4
)?

The Bronner's isn't a conditioner pre se, but it has conditioning properties. The main point of the Bronner's rinse is to close the cuticle of your hair and strip away buildup that isn't removed by using castile soap rather than sulfates. Bronner's also has a leave-in you could try.
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Originally Posted by Crump's Brother View Post

looking to purchase a new pomade
my aim is for something that has at least a medium hold, must be water soluble, and doesn't harden why dry...the cheaper the better

Look into American Crew products, they have some good stuff out there.
post #778 of 1208
PB, I already use a sulfate-free shampoo, but no conditioner. Going to add the Dr. Bronner's conditioning rinse to my arsenal -- do they sell them at Targets or what have you? Or is it 'scarce' enough that I should just order it online?
post #779 of 1208
The Bronner's rinse is insanely hard to find. I still haven't found a place in New York that carries it. I have only gotten it online. There are a lot of sulfate-free and silicone free conditioners out there you can get easily. I will warn you the Bronner's in a very weird product. You have to dilute it and pour it over your hair and massage it in. Since it is mostly lemon juice it burns like the devil's asshole if you get it in your eyes, or if you just shaved. While it is cumbersome, and odd I find that it works very well to make your hair sleek without buildup. If you want to try to find a regular sulfate free silicone free conditioner Loreal makes one in a orange/rust colored plastic jar that is very good.
post #780 of 1208
Ermahgerd! I have to dilute that shit?! Do you just dilute a big batch and use it until you run out? Or do you dilute it before each use? The whole having to dilute it before use is a no-go as I need to use this at home and on the go when I'm traveling.

Are there any other similar products one can use as-is?

Thanks!

Edit: I'm gonna give this stuff a try http://www.amazon.com/bliss-lemon-sage-conditioning-rinse/dp/B001NJB1I2/ref=sr_1_8?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1356806046&sr=1-8&keywords=citrus+conditioning+hair+rinse
Edited by GreenFrog - 12/29/12 at 10:38am
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