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post #1951 of 2058
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Originally Posted by AndyThrift View Post

Now first off I know everyone here will instantly hate that these two suit might be Gucci and Dolce and Gabbana but I bought them dirt cheap and can return them.
The quality is no where near my Canali or HF obviously but I got them because they were so cheap and I thought they would be a nice once in a blue moon wear.
If anyone could tell me if they are authentic or not that would be much

Gucci is real and old. D&G I know nothing about, but if it was cheap and you like it then I'd not worry.
post #1952 of 2058
Also, Gucci is made by Zegna and better quality than Canali and HF for the most part.
post #1953 of 2058
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Originally Posted by Cj52racers View Post

Also, Gucci is made by Zegna and better quality than Canali and HF for the most part.

Not sure this is true in the case of Gucci for Zegna?

 

Zegna mainline has a little more finishing attention than Canali mainline, sure (though I think it's hard to be categorical here), but I think plenty of Gucci stuff is made to the lower (~Z Zegna) standard. Let me know if I'm missing something.

post #1954 of 2058
Can anyone help me out with info on these shoes? Are they real? If so are they custom?
post #1955 of 2058
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Originally Posted by Luvmydogz83 View Post

Can anyone help me out with info on these shoes? Are they real? If so are they custom?

One of the best shoe manufacturers in the world. Look real to me... Details/inner lining looks accurate. Are there any other markings on the shoe, either inside or on the sole?

I have not seen that sort of stamping on the outer sole before - possibly a resole? Someone with more experience could chime in there. Nice find!
post #1956 of 2058
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Originally Posted by bpk1 View Post

One of the best shoe manufacturers in the world. Look real to me... Details/inner lining looks accurate. Are there any other markings on the shoe, either inside or on the sole?

I have not seen that sort of stamping on the outer sole before - possibly a resole? Someone with more experience could chime in there. Nice find!

This is the only other marking on the inside of these shoes. 86748 is written on the inside of both
post #1957 of 2058
Those are John Lobb (London) bespoke shoes. They stamp the outsoles and, I believe, heel top lifts before the materials are sent to the 'maker,' who constructs the shoes. Thus, the stamped "LOBB" ends up at different places on the outsole, depending on how the maker cuts the leather.

You could perhaps date the shoes based on the stamps on the heel pad, since those show the Royal Warrants held by Lobb at the time. Also, I think perhaps the cities listed on the heel pad may help in dating them.

Or you could call the Lobb St. James location and ask, though I don't know that they will tell you.
post #1958 of 2058
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Originally Posted by Quesjac View Post

Not sure this is true in the case of Gucci for Zegna?

Zegna mainline has a little more finishing attention than Canali mainline, sure (though I think it's hard to be categorical here), but I think plenty of Gucci stuff is made to the lower (~Z Zegna) standard. Let me know if I'm missing something.

Gucci are full canvassed and made in Switzerland. So I would say they are inline with Zegna mainline. Z Zegna stuff are fused and made in Mecxico.
post #1959 of 2058
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Originally Posted by shoefan View Post

You could perhaps date the shoes based on the stamps on the heel pad, since those show the Royal Warrants held by Lobb at the time. Also, I think perhaps the cities listed on the heel pad may help in dating them.

Those shoes were made somewhere between 1972 (or so) when the firm gained the Royal Warrant from the Prince of Wales and early 2000s when they lost the Warrant from the Queen. As the shoes are in pretty good nick, I would place them into the late 90s. The cities listed won't help, as Lobb quotes them to this day, although the Paris branch was sold back in 1976 and, as far as I know, never had a brick-and-mortar presence in New York.

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Or you could call the Lobb St. James location and ask, though I don't know that they will tell you.

86748 is the production number and by checking their ledgers, Lobb will know when and for whom the shoes were made. I have no idea if they will share that information with you.
post #1960 of 2058
Thank you so much everybody. These shoes will be for sale soon, as they are too big for me.
post #1961 of 2058
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Originally Posted by Quesjac View Post

Not sure this is true in the case of Gucci for Zegna?

Zegna mainline has a little more finishing attention than Canali mainline, sure (though I think it's hard to be categorical here), but I think plenty of Gucci stuff is made to the lower (~Z Zegna) standard. Let me know if I'm missing something.
As AGfS said, the Gucci stuff by Zegna is made in their mainline factories where the Z Zegna stuff is made in their factories in Mexico. All of the Gucci stuff I've seen has been quite nice.
post #1962 of 2058

Thanks for the help guys, the Gucci is definitely well made and fully canvased.

post #1963 of 2058
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Originally Posted by AndyThrift View Post

Now first off I know everyone here will instantly hate that these two suit might be Gucci and Dolce and Gabbana but I bought them dirt cheap and can return them. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The quality is no where near my Canali or HF obviously but I got them because they were so cheap and I thought they would be a nice once in a blue moon wear.
If anyone could tell me if they are authentic or not that would be much appreciated.



Gucci



Both are real. The Gucci is about 20 years old, the dolce is their mainline, but they still fuse a lot of stuff, even the "gold tag" line.
post #1964 of 2058

Not worried about authenticity but can anyone tell me how old this tag is?

 

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post #1965 of 2058
For my education, these are totally fake, correct?

The horsey piece looks tacky and I can't imagine Burberry attaching crap like. Buttons say Burberry which I was surpised.





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