I purchased these from another member, but they were just a bit big for me. The arcs and tab are still VERY much in tact. He had a full crotch re-enforcement done by Denim Doctors, which is totally invisible from the outside. Lots of wear left. In great shape. Measurements: Waist: 32.5 Thigh: 12 Knee: 9 Inseam: 33.5 (originally chain-stitch hemmed @ BiG) Hem: 8.5 $120 --> $100
