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post #16 of 30
^Style lives and plays in the gap between opinion and fact.
post #17 of 30
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Originally Posted by bringusingoodale View Post
^some would say that is too tight. But if you are as slim as the OP, a shirt that fits like that wouldn't raise any concerns.
That's my point. He's fit, why hide it?
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Originally Posted by rioni View Post
^^ that shirt is way too tight
I respectfully disagree. It may be too tight for your tastes, but it's not objectively too tight. It's not pulling anywhere, it's unbelievably comfortable and at the same time conforms to the aesthetics of my style.
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post
A lot of bad responses in this thread, IMO. The sizing is only slightly off, not as bad as some people here claim. One of the reasons why you really shouldn't ask for size opinions on this, or any other forum, really. You get some really bad responses from people who (for the most part) are confusing opinion with fact, and don't really have the knowledge (barring the odd exception) to be making a proper, informed opinion anyway.
I think most people were identifying some or most problems correctly. I'm sorry, but in picture #4 it looks like the OP has some kind of misshaped, deformed chest. In others, there's pulling and bunching of fabric. It's far from an ideal fit. However, I mostly agree. Most of us here have no experience cutting and making shirts ourselves. But it doesn't mean we can't identify some of the problems. And anyway, after giving my opinion I posted a picture of what I think is a good fit (on me). If he likes it, he can follow my advice. If not, he can ignore it. His choice.
post #18 of 30
@acecow's shirt
First, at least you have the bravery to post yourself. I applaud you for that.

However, while you like the fit, its not what is universally agreed upon as a good fit. I personally think your chest and waist is okay, but I don't think your going to get very much freedom of movement unless you have side pleats in the back. You may not want such movement, its up to you. I do wonder how well the shirt stays in place during much body movement. I guess if you just sit at a desk all day none of this matters.

That said, the sleeves are really really tight. You can just see them wrinkling everywhere. Very unprofessional looking. You can keep the jacket on and hide it, but thats just covering up the problem. So on your sleeves, I completely disagree with your tastes. But again, your shirt, your fit, not my problem.

I'm just saying the above for the benefit of other readers. This is in no way a personal attack against acecow or his shirt fit.
post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by phxlawstudent View Post
@acecow's shirt
First, at least you have the bravery to post yourself. I applaud you for that.

However, while you like the fit, its not what is universally agreed upon as a good fit. I personally think your chest and waist is okay, but I don't think your going to get very much freedom of movement unless you have side pleats in the back. You may not want such movement, its up to you. I do wonder how well the shirt stays in place during much body movement. I guess if you just sit at a desk all day none of this matters.

That said, the sleeves are really really tight. You can just see them wrinkling everywhere. Very unprofessional looking. You can keep the jacket on and hide it, but thats just covering up the problem. So on your sleeves, I completely disagree with your tastes. But again, your shirt, your fit, not my problem.

I'm just saying the above for the benefit of other readers. This is in no way a personal attack against acecow or his shirt fit.

The photo was taken after making and consuming breakfast in that shirt. It actually stays in place and I've lots of freedom to move due to very high armholes. Yes, the sleeves are too slim, the MTM maker f*****d up big time on that order. It's still wearable and, being a shirt with french cuffs, will always be under a jacket. Catastrophe avoided just barely, whew. But boy was I pissed when I first tried it on. My point was not about the sleeves, though.
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by acecow View Post
The photo was taken after making and consuming breakfast in that shirt. It actually stays in place and I've lots of freedom to move due to very high armholes. Yes, the sleeves are too slim, the MTM maker f*****d up big time on that order. It's still wearable and, being a shirt with french cuffs, will always be under a jacket. Catastrophe avoided just barely, whew. But boy was I pissed when I first tried it on. My point was not about the sleeves, though.

Well, in that case, we're mostly agreed. I'd have to see how the shirt performs in a video to be absolutely sure, as right now I still don't buy it that you can move your arms all around without pulling at the chest. But! That is a personal preference, and I will readily admit that several of my shirts are that tight in the chest, but I still wear them.
post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post
A lot of bad responses in this thread, IMO. The sizing is only slightly off, not as bad as some people here claim. One of the reasons why you really shouldn't ask for size opinions on this, or any other forum, really. You get some really bad responses from people who (for the most part) are confusing opinion with fact, and don't really have the knowledge (barring the odd exception) to be making a proper, informed opinion anyway.
I disagree. To me, the o.p.'s shirt is way off. It just doesn't fit; it doesn't fit in the neck or the shoulders, two of the key places that are difficult (if not impossible) to alter. The chest is also off; you can see dimples above the armpits, because the chest is too large and the shoulders appear to be too long. I agree that the other shirt the guy posted wasn't an ideal fit either (like he stated, those arms are much too tight), but the o.p.'s shirt looks absolutely bush league compared to it.
post #22 of 30
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Originally Posted by spitfirees20 View Post
But the o.p.'s shirt looks absolutely bush league compared to it.

Come on... saying its bush league in comparison is going too far IMO. OP still looks better than 80% of the people in "the wild." No comment re: neck. OP still needs to button that collar...
post #23 of 30
I think online mtm does have it's benefits, especially for those who can't afford bespoke, live in places without options, as if done right the fit will be better than OTR.

However, I think instead of jumping to an online mtm if possible everyone should go to a local store, BB, Ralph Lauren etc, or better yet a local tailor and getting a mtm measured by a tailor, consult with them, the MTM sales person and having one made there. that way a) you have a shirt that fits great, and b) you know the measurements of that shirt and then if you choose to, can use those measurements for an online mtm. The cost ends up being the same I would think, as often I think people take about 3+ tries experimenting with measurements on online MTMs.
post #24 of 30
as i said earlier, the OP's shirt is a mess.

the problem with buying a custom shirt where you have been measured by a professional, and then sending off the measurements is not a perfect solution.

a few basic measurments is a good start.
but
the pattern that the professional used
and the pattern that the online company uses will be different.
it is difficult to relay shoulder slope information to online companies.
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by rioni View Post
^^ that shirt is way too tight

+ 2

Definitely don't like the look of that.
post #26 of 30
OP,

I think the size of the shirt is fine.

Don't get caught up in the "slim-shirt" hype. I personally think a lot of people do it badly.

What you have now it a conservative shirt that does not accentuate your lack of mass. If you go for a "slim-shirt" you would appear very skinny...
post #27 of 30
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the thoughts, everyone. Part of the challenge with having a "perfect" fitted shirt is that body types change. When you're as thin as I am, a few months of no-gym-time can have your shirts go from looking "too tight" to "too loose". There's not a huge amount of flexibility. I've posted other tailored shirts on SF before (1, 2, 3) and opinions have been quite mixed -- I'd say the only consistent message is shirtmaven's view as to any online tailor being "garbage"... Another of the challenges here is that -- even given how loose this shirt appears -- I'd still probably say it's the slimmest fitting of any shirt I see among my co-workers (where BB and Thomas Pink dominates). Makes me a bit hesitant to go too slim in a conservative work environment... I actually wish I could buy similar stuff OTR, but I've yet to find anything that comes close to fitting a 6'5" frame with a 32" waist and a 37" sleeve length. If anyone knows of an alternative out there, please let me know!
post #28 of 30
i tried to look at your three previous attempt. the first one was better then attempt #4 could not view 2 and three. I have seen decent shirts posted here. and i have commented that they looked good. the patterns used by tailor store do not work for you. my thoughts just based on your photos. the collar looks to stiff for a button down. the yoke in front looks short, while the yoke in back looks a bit wide. the deeper yoke with the box pleat looks off. the back across your blades has way too much fabric. the armhole seem deep and the sleeves are too full. I will guess that the shirt was not laundered, so we can't make a good assessment on sleeve length you are asking for criticism on the fit of the shirt. If it was close to good, I would tell you so. Your size makes it very difficult to find a rtw shirt that will fit you properly.
post #29 of 30
Agreed. Attempt #1 clearly superior to #4. I'm not interested enough to copy & paste those imageshack links. The yoke looks too big in #1. I already gave you my responses for your recent attempt, and the picture quality isn't too great in #1, so I defer to shirtmaven.
post #30 of 30
Instead of asking us, send your pics to Tailor Store. They were very helpful when I was trying to get the measurements right and knew exactly what to change.
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