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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
In that case, you can call me Joe.

I wonder if opinions in this are determined partly by complexion. I am dark and look good in high contast. Maybe white's too severe for others? To me it looks clean, sharp and professional.

My love for the austere simplicity of the '60s means I'll always have a place in my heart for the white shirt and black knit tie.

White shirts are great. When I made the JAB comment, I was thinking about white ground shirts with fine/weak stripes or checks.

There are two problems with those shirts IMO.

First, they never look crisp and clean the way plain white does; from even a short distance, they look like a soiled white shirt.

Second, they have no application except for the office. White shirts, solid colored shirts, and shirts with distinct patterns like bengal stripes can be worn in a variety of situations, but a white ground shirt with a fine pattern just looks like a bland office look to me.
post #767 of 7029
I suspect I like those too. Takes the edge off solid white and let's me have a subtle pattern that I can treat almost like a solid.

Of course, it's hard to discuss this in the abstract. There are plenty of crappy white ground shirts out there.
post #768 of 7029
Must be chair day

post #769 of 7029
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Originally Posted by Fred49 View Post
Must be chair day


MODERN chair day to be precise.
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My error
post #771 of 7029
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
I wonder if opinions on this are determined partly by complexion. I am dark and look good in high contast. Maybe white's too severe for others? To me it looks clean, sharp and professional.

I think it's complexion-dependent in certain cases, yes. But lately, when I was culling my closet, something about them seemed less interesting than a plain white. This is mainly focused on subtle checks, however - I still like thin, subtle stripes - and I think the crispness factor sellahi22 mentions has something to do with it
post #772 of 7029
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Originally Posted by ltontheqt View Post
I have been following this thread with great interest, although I work in academia where there is no such thing as CBD. Initially I thought that a suit and tie rig would limit individual style. The whole uni phenomenon. To my surprise, I see otherwise. It's all about the details and the unexpected choices: think Manton's pebble grain bluchers with a suit. Still, it seems to me that casual clothing, sportcoats and the like, offer more room for self-expression. Am I wrong about that?
Not sure this is making sense. The test of a wardrobe is its capacity for self-expression? Why would casual clothing have more utility here than suits and ties? I doubt you would argue that one style of music (say blues or classical) is a better medium for self-expression than another (say reggae or rock). It all depends on what you want to play, and what you want to express. Your initial thought sounds like common prejudice. These days, there is nothing more uniform than casual clothing. Khakis and a polo, for example ... that is the uniform in most workplaces that require one. The man in the gray flannel suit went to work 60-70 years ago. Even then most uniforms were what we would call casual clothing ... matching navy cotton work clothes, etc.
post #773 of 7029
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
In that case, you can call me Joe.

I wonder if opinions on this are determined partly by complexion. I am dark and look good in high contast. Maybe white's too severe for others? To me it looks clean, sharp and professional.

My love for the austere simplicity of the '60s means I'll always have a place in my heart for the white shirt and black knit tie.

I don't think you need an 'excuse' at all.
To me white shirts are simple, clean and sharp, as you say, and provide a nice canvas for the rest of your colour palette, i.e., a pattern and/or a tie. I like them with bold patterns, but also with subtle ones, where the shirt looks different from afar than up-close, which I think is an interesting effect. I wouldn't hesitate to wear a white shirt with a subtle pattern outside of a professional setting.

If anything, I dislike a pattern where it's not quite clear what is the pattern and what the background, like with thick butcher stripes: is it a white shirt with blue stripes or a blue shirt with white stripes?
post #774 of 7029
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Originally Posted by The Thin Man View Post
I think anyone in a suit-wearing environment could wear a square, particularly if they wear it every day and it just becomes part of their look. Yeah, they'll look like they care, but honestly if you're one of the few whose clothes fit, then you already look like you care.

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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
In Singapore, which has similar heat issues -- except they have them year round -- CBD is dress pants, dress shirt and tie but no jacket. I think it looks awful and it is also kind of illogical. I suspect this developed back before air conditioning was as prevalent as it is now. Because today, while it is 86 and extremely humid outside, all the offices are 68 and you could wear a jacket perfectly comfortably.

Bounder, are you from Singapore too? In actual fact, I find that ties are getting less common nowadays. CBD is just a baggy dress shirt and a pair of ill-fitting pants for most in Tanjong Pagar/Raffles Place area. I do agree that our humid weather contributes to the lack of formality in dressing but that is not an excuse to at least try.
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Originally Posted by ManofKent View Post
Grey and wet today, so photos were taken inside with the usual lighting caveats:
No collar stays?
post #776 of 7029
UCBD today (another pindot shirt... ).







post #777 of 7029
Love that tie, the pocket square fold not so much.
post #778 of 7029
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post
Love that tie, the pocket square fold not so much.

I don't really do "folds". I take the square, puff it in my hand, fold it in two and stuff it in. Always. Never square, never TV, never points up. That's one less thing to think about
post #779 of 7029
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
I don't really do "folds". I take the square, puff it in my hand, fold it in two and stuff it in. Always. Never square, never TV, never points up. That's one less thing to think about
Oh, no doubt. It's just that in this pic especially, it looks like it's actually folded over somewhat neatly.
post #780 of 7029
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
No collar stays?
Over flexible plastic ones, I seem to be losing brass ones at the rate of a pair a week - I suspect a hunt through the laundry is called for. You're right it does look rather sloppy in that pic
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UCBD today (another pindot shirt... ).

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I'd worry if I was you - I like the shirt... Nice tie too. I prefer a bit more of a puff to silk, but then I frequently find myself having to tuck it back in to restrain it because of that
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