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post #76 of 104
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Originally Posted by PorterInjax View Post
Bravo!

If there is a higher percentage of mistakes with cordovan, then they need to be checking this diligently. There's really no excuse - if they KNOW that cordovan is difficult to work with, then they should have extra QC on cordo models.

How many vass cordovan shoes have looked like this? (which are usually only about 200 more than alden models).
post #77 of 104
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Does anyone know the customer service e-mail address for Alden?
post #78 of 104
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post
Wow - the proprietor of Leffot must be totally color blind.

If I had a shoe shop and saw that come in to my shop, I would absolutely not accept it from the manufacturer.

My standards are higher than that.

Without a doubt, I would never send those out to a customer!

that pair were probably in a box unopened inside the warehouse even when it was shipped. as much as there is argument with leffot amiss with what they sell, I also couldn't blame them for shipping out without opening each item if its still inside the original packaging, with the assumption that the source does have some quality control program.
post #79 of 104
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Originally Posted by acidboy View Post
that pair were probably in a box unopened inside the warehouse even when it was shipped. as much as there is argument with leffot amiss with what they sell, I also couldn't blame them for shipping out without opening each item if its still inside the original packaging, with the assumption that the source does have some quality control program.
If a store doesn't inspect what they send out, they are part of the problem. If they do inspect it and still send it out that way, they are still part of the problem.
post #80 of 104
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post
Does anyone know the customer service e-mail address for Alden?

try general@aldenshoe.com i got it from the website www.aldenshoe.com located in MA seems like theirs
post #81 of 104
Fact is, different shells take dye differently because they are pretty impermeable. I am sure those shoes were both made from #8 shell. Still, you'd think somebody would have noticed such an egregious mismatch somewhere along the line.
post #82 of 104
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post
Fact is, different shells take dye differently because they are pretty impermeable. I am sure those shoes were both made from #8 shell. Still, you'd think somebody would have noticed such an egregious mismatch somewhere along the line.

Yeah, I don't buy the "well it's shell and it's hard to work with, blah blah" argument at all. WORK WITH IT or don't sell it!
post #83 of 104
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post
I thought I wouldn't mention it, but these shoes (the saddles) also have this exact issue on the lighter pair on both sides and near the heel. There is also 3 clearly imperfect stitches on the darker pair right in the front.

Alden REALLY needs to get their shit together. The demand for their product is being met with a steadily declining quality in their supply. Sad, really.

Yes, it is a factory/retailer QC issue but the root cause is deeper than that. Apparently, some craftsmen do not take pride of their own work in the first place. I wonder if they know there are customers who are "passionate" about their Alden shoes.

I have a similar experience with a pair of Ravello wingtips. Fortunately, the color issue was discovered by the retailer prior to shipment and they were offered to me at a substantial discount, with full return privilege. I end up keeping the pair as my rain/snow kicks. The pair did not have the usual "R" markings, indicating the shoes were passed by the factory QC. Lucky to me, the retailer spotted the issue first. But it really puzzles me to see how the craftsman/woman at the bench could stitch up the uppers with patches of Cordovan with such color difference. Mind you, that's not simply a left-right matching issue.

Speaking of the retailers, considering their near 50% retail profit margin, they should be able to accommodate the customers without much problem. The retailers are the ones who should push the factory for better QC.

BTW, I know Steven will take care of his customer.
post #84 of 104
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post
Yes, it is a factory/retailer QC issue but the root cause is deeper than that. Apparently, some craftsmen do not take pride of their own work in the first place. I wonder if they know there are customers who are "passionate" about their Alden shoes. I have a similar experience with a pair of Ravello wingtips. Fortunately, the color issue was discovered by the retailer prior to shipment and they were offered to me at a substantial discount, with full return privilege. I end up keeping the pair as my rain/snow kicks. The pair did not have the usual "R" markings, indicating the shoes were passed by the factory QC. Lucky to me, the retailer spotted the issue first. But it really puzzles me to see how the craftsman/woman at the bench could stitch up the uppers with patches of Cordovan with such color difference. Mind you, that's not simply a left-right matching issue. Speaking of the retailers, considering their near 50% retail profit margin, they should be able to accommodate the customers without much problem. The retailers are the ones who should push the factory for better QC. BTW, I know Steven will take care of his customer.
I agree on all points. I am hoping that Steven will not resell these, and will either mark them way down or send them back to Alden. But of course that is his call.
post #85 of 104
Vox is retired so I will interject with a snarky comment about A&E seconds in his absence.

That is all.

Carry on.
post #86 of 104
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post
I agree on all points.

I am hoping that Steven will not resell these, and will either mark them way down or send them back to Alden. But of course that is his call.

he should sell them as clown shoes!
post #87 of 104
shell cordovan. missmatched colours. collector's item
post #88 of 104
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Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger View Post

I don't make a snippet of what some of you guys do on here, so for me, $500 shoes are a HUGE deal, but when you're dealing with a rare product that is NOT easy to work with (stitching as well as staining) you have to expect a higher percentage of maker mistakes. .

The problem isn't they made a mistake. The problem is they shipped it.

If they missed that what else don't they notice?

OTOH maybe it's intentional? I'm seeing a few people wearing mixed up shoes
post #89 of 104
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post
but see thats not our problem (the hard work with leather), they need to deal with it, its like getting a faulty Ipad, will apple go on and tell you how hard the metal is to work with, no and thats not your concern, Apple will replace it and same with Alden, the point is that if you put out a product put out a quality one otherwise just dont make it

PS: $500 shoes are a big deal anyday... thats a lot thats why the quality has to be outstanding

Na. Apple will tell you it's your fault for holding it hard and then offer a extra cost cover.
post #90 of 104
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post
Thanks for the support, guys who showed support.

As for WHY this is how it is: I am 100% sure it is a factory issue. These shoes had no chance to sit in sunlight as they were at Leffot for less than a week before they were shipped to me. Maybe 5 days at Leffot. Is that enough time for one shoe to lighten 2-3-4 shades? I don't know, but I don't think so.

They are going back tomorrow... I am NOT dealing with having Alden "fix" them. I have a bad taste in my mouth about this whole thing.

Where can I get some C&J shell?

I once exchanged a pair of RL Darltons for a similar (but not nearly as extreme) issue....

Not sure if I missed it in the thread, but which color were you expecting when you placed your order?
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