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Stripped of bargaining rights. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...03-09-19-32-37
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate voted Wednesday night to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber's missing Democrats.
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So politics now consists of out-maneuvering ones opponents on obscure technicalities hidden within the letter of the law. Good to know. Point, Republicans.
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AF, non of the financial aspects of the bill were passed, do you seriously think this is a victory?
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Bunch of clowns.
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So politics now consists of out-maneuvering ones opponents on obscure technicalities hidden within the letter of the law. Good to know. Point, Republicans.
Well the Fleebagging Dems don't show up for important votes so this is certainly fair game.
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AF, non of the financial aspects of the bill were passed, do you seriously think this is a victory?
Yes, it's a big victory. They can work on the financial elements later.
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Bunch of clowns.
I agree. Who flees a state because they don't like losing an election? Bunch pussies those Democrats.
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Yes, it's a big victory. They can work on the financial elements later.
It might be hard to get any cooperation from the Dems now.
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The day unions and collective bargaining disappear, this nation should celebrate. If the cowardly Democrats run across state lines in an obstructionist stunt to defy the process, I am all for Republicans using technicalities, tricks, and legalism to put the legislative process back on track.

Remember Dems using reconciliation to pass that huge pile of shit known as health care reform?
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Bunch of clowns.

U mad?
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Well the Fleebagging Dems don't show up for important votes so this is certainly fair game.

Game is the right word. I'm guessing the next set may involve this:

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The lone Democrat present on the conference committee, Rep. Tony Barca, shouted that the surprise meeting was a violation of the state's open meetings law but Republicans voted over his objections.
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Remember Dems using reconciliation to pass that huge pile of shit known as health care reform?

This is a good data point.

When the Republicans do it, it's dirty pool and "unprecedented" and destroying our rights.

When the Democrats do it, it's just shit you say to get or stay elected.
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So, let me just make sure I have this straight: When it comes to passing health care reform, exploiting quirks in the legislative process is an outrage. However, when it comes to stripping away workers' ability to bargain collectively, gaming the system is a sound approach.

Is that about right?

Partisan hypocrisy for the fucking loss.
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It's disgusting when any elected officials engage in professional kindergardening.
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So, let me just make sure I have this straight: When it comes to passing health care reform, exploiting quirks in the legislative process is an outrage. However, when it comes to stripping away workers' ability to bargain collectively, gaming the system is a sound approach.

Is that about right?

Partisan hypocrisy for the fucking loss.

What is more of a game here MrG, fleeing the state to obstruct an important vote or finding a way to have this vote using procedural measures?

At least the Republicans are showing up for the vote. They also won the election. So aren't they doing the voters' work here?
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I totally approve of this vote. It seems that since this was a non-monetary vote, a Dem is not needed. The put forth an item that was non-monetary and voted. Seems 100% fine by me. Don't forget, this was triggered because elected officials ran away in an attempt to subvert the current rules and democratic process. I also love this quote by the one lone Dem:

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Before the sudden votes, Democratic Sen. Bob Jauch said if Republicans "chose to ram this bill through in this fashion, it will be to their political peril. They're changing the rules. They will inflame a very frustrated public."

ABOUT FUCKING TIME POLITICIANS PLACED THEIR CONVICTIONS ABOVE RE-ELECTION POSSIBILITY!
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