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post #736 of 1368
Way to "rebuild" the leafs... giving up two first rounders and a second... ridiculous... Welcome to another 5 years of mediocrity and low draft picks.
post #737 of 1368
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Originally Posted by KenN View Post
A steal for Burke. Honorable too. He could have easily gotten him for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd via offer sheets.

+1, at least he's not a hypocrite... I commend him for that.
post #738 of 1368
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Originally Posted by sonick View Post
Way to "rebuild" the leafs... giving up two first rounders and a second... ridiculous...

Welcome to another 5 years of mediocrity and low draft picks.

Boston would be pissed eh...
post #739 of 1368
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Originally Posted by sonick View Post
Way to "rebuild" the leafs... giving up two first rounders and a second... ridiculous...

Welcome to another 5 years of mediocrity and low draft picks.

Errr no way, those two first rounders will be in the 10+ range. Meaning that it's basically a crap shoot, it's about a 50-50 chance that a draft pick in that range actually PLAYS 100 NHL games. Look up the statistics. This IS a rebuild move, kessel is a 21 year old natural goal scorer. He will be here in his prime along side the likes of kadri, bozak, schenn. It's pretty damn good. Even if those two draft picks become NHL players they probably won't even have an impact until 2014-2015. By that time these guys would be RFAs, who knows if they can keep them all.

It was an expensive trade, but it was a fair trade. Not to mention it is very rare that a player of this calibre is even traded as he approaches his prime.
post #740 of 1368
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEP_v2Ri4JoThe leafs are scary this year.
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post #741 of 1368
^They don't have a goalie, their d corps is middling, and they have no standout forward line - the top line is good, but isn't exactly great, and their best player just got there, so who knows how he'll play with a new team. The depth isn't full of plugs exactly, but it is mediocre. There's absolutely no scary part of that team. They are defined by 3 letters: "Meh".
post #742 of 1368
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Originally Posted by ryoneo View Post
would anyone like to get a fantasy hockey league league started with members here? I was thinking of making it in Yahoo!
I would be interested but I'm already in one. Don't really want to do another.
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Originally Posted by KenN View Post
The leafs are scary this year.
They are the best team in the leaguing at breaking helmets during a fight. They are mediocre at every other level.
post #743 of 1368
That makes me wonder though, who actually IS scary this year? San Jose, with Heatley Thornton Setoguchi as a top line and Marleau and Clowe on the 2nd. But they have no depth on forward nor D. Maybe Chicago? Stacked at forward and a solid D corps, but no reliable goaltending. Calgary is fine until you get to the bottom half of the roster and realize they have weak depth forwards and only have 4 defensemen so if anyone gets hurt they're screwed... again. Detroit is the same Detroit as last year but minus Hossa and a year older. Same goes for Penguins, except the year older might actually be a good thing in their case. Philly, Ottawa, T-Bay and MTL look fine up front, but don't have reliable goaltending. I dunno, nobody really jumps off the page at me. Some of last year's good teams are still good but aren't signficantly better, and no one who wasn't contending has made a big splash.
post #744 of 1368
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Originally Posted by JD_May View Post
^They don't have a goalie, their d corps is middling, and they have no standout forward line - the top line is good, but isn't exactly great, and their best player just got there, so who knows how he'll play with a new team. The depth isn't full of plugs exactly, but it is mediocre. There's absolutely no scary part of that team. They are defined by 3 letters: "Meh".

How can you say the leafs D-corps is middling... they're definitely up there and very competitive with the rest of the league.

The top 4 pairings are like this:

Kaberle - Komisarek
Beauchemin - Schenn

They still have
Van ryn, Exelby, Ian white, frogen, finger

The goaltending situation is still a big question mark but it's a good year for either Toskala or Gustavsson to step it up. The leafs team is very young but they are playoff contenders for sure, a 7th or 8th place finish is not out of the question.


In the west watch out for the blues... they will be the next chicago. Young team with lots of potential.
post #745 of 1368
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Originally Posted by Vashin View Post
How can you say the leafs D-corps is middling... they're definitely up there and very competitive with the rest of the league.

The top 4 pairings are like this:

Kaberle - Komisarek
Beauchemin - Schenn

Kaberle: 4G, 27A, and -8 in 57 games last year
Komisarek: 2G, 9A, and 0 in 66 gmaes last year
Beauchemin: 4G, 1A, and -3 in 20 games last year
Schenn: 2G, 12A, and -12 in 70 games last year

With the exception of Kaberle's assist total, these stats paint the picture of average.
post #746 of 1368
You should know stats aren't everything... Komisarek and Schenn are stay at home defensemen. With last year being Schenn's FIRST YEAR in the NHL and having the responsibility to play against the #1 lines of all teams... he's got a great future. Ask any NHL expert and they would recognize Schenn's ability. Komisarek is a very strong physical Dmen that also plays vs #1 lines. He was never really the same for montreal after a fight with lucic but he is still recognized as one of the best defensive D in the game.

Kaberle is great... soft hands with great vision and an amazing first pass. He was injured last year but he is one of the leafs most consistent performers getting 50+ points for most full seasons on very shitty leaf teams. Beauchemin is also very good, but his years in anaheim were playing behind the likes of pronger and niedermyer meaning he didn't get many chances to play on the pp.

Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.
post #747 of 1368
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Originally Posted by Vashin View Post
Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.

They might make the playoffs, but I don't see them going more than 1 or 2 rounds.
The leafs might be physically tough to play against (e.g. Helmet rip), but they ain't going anywhere without consistent scoring.
post #748 of 1368
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Originally Posted by Vashin View Post
Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.

If you say so.
post #749 of 1368
KenN: That's why they are playoff contenders... not cup contenders. They have a good chance to make the playoffs, but that's about their limit at this point. btw they were 10th in scoring last year... it was their goaltending that killed the leafs. Hopefully toskala will rebound or gustavsson will be NHL ready. Ryoneo: hey we beat you guys twice so far in the pre-season... and we're tougher too. Philly-Toronto games will be so very fun to watch. check out the penalty summary: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2009091921
post #750 of 1368
Blackhawks, baby. I feel they're going to make it to the Cup this year. Though, I'm not confident they're going to win it.
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