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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by edmorel
HUH?!?!?!???

The Inco's and Zegna's that are currently being sold by Jamison are brand new. The one's that I have sold are brand new.

'Tis true. Ed may quickly slip them on to see if they are tight enough to qualify as 'package pants', but other than that these are NWTs goods you're talking about.

PS - Barba makes a nice slim trouser as well....
post #17 of 28
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I dont mind used trousers, my wife really wont let me spend loads of money on new stuff (even though my old clothes are way too big). I have some 36's that I think can be altered in an inch or two to fit perfect.
I guess I should watch the auctions for some. The pic of the slim grey pants are perfect!
post #18 of 28
DKNY's Soho pant is pretty slim, well made, and affordable. It's made from wool with a version that has 2% elastene and a version that has 2% polyester. I think the leg is slightly boot cut as well.
post #19 of 28
Do the BR dress pants fit as badly as the rest of their stuff? What's the below-the-belt equivalent of Target's Mossimo dress shirts? I spend all day at work squirming in a chair, so my pants get heavy wear. Cheap cotton khakis wear out quickly on the edges like the belt loops and pockets. I've decided for a variety of reasons to switch to wool trousers. However, I'm not convinced that pants that cost twice as much will wear out half as slowly, so I want to stick with low-end trousers for a while.
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Jared
Do the BR dress pants fit as badly as the rest of their stuff? What's the below-the-belt equivalent of Target's Mossimo dress shirts?

I spend all day at work squirming in a chair, so my pants get heavy wear. Cheap cotton khakis wear out quickly on the edges like the belt loops and pockets. I've decided for a variety of reasons to switch to wool trousers. However, I'm not convinced that pants that cost twice as much will wear out half as slowly, so I want to stick with low-end trousers for a while.

Expensive pants (Incotex, Zanella, Zegna, Borrelli, Barba, Valentini, RLPL etc) are worth it. I am not one of those guys that immediately buys into the "if it's more expensive, it's better" mantra but I can tell you that there is a significant difference between the good stuff and everything else, especially with wool. There are few things worst than a cheap wool garment, cheaply made. If you want to keep the price down, you can shop Brooks or JAB sales or ebay for mid priced decent trousers.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Expensive pants (Incotex, Zanella, Zegna, Borrelli, Barba, Valentini, RLPL etc) are worth it. I am not one of those guys that immediately buys into the "if it's more expensive, it's better" mantra but I can tell you that there is a significant difference between the good stuff and everything else, especially with wool. There are few things worst than a cheap wool garment, cheaply made. If you want to keep the price down, you can shop Brooks or JAB sales or ebay for mid priced decent trousers.
IMO, some of the slimmer pants out there are starting to look quite ridiculous. It is very hard to do a really good slim RTW pant, as the thighs are always going to be too large in order to accomodate more people, people start to look like they are wearing jodphurs. The brands Ed mentions all use nice fabrics, and some of them have nice patterns and cuts. I personally like the Borrelli ones a lot, and own quite a few. The make is really no different than cheaper pants. Very little is done differently. When you compare them to something like Oxxford (who make extremely well made ugly pants), there is a bigger difference in construction between Borrelli and Oxxford than Borrelli and Banana Republic. The difference is all in the fabric.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by iammatt
When you compare them to something like Oxxford (who make extremely well made ugly pants), there is a bigger difference in construction between Borrelli and Oxxford than Borrelli and Banana Republic. The difference is all in the fabric.

Is this really true!? I hope you are making a specific comparison between Borrelli and BR because I'll tell you that the Incotex trousers I have, and some Valentinos I purchased at Century 21 are constructed way better than my BR slacks. The waistband is better, so are the button closures, and I'm sure the stitching is as well.

I would buy a comparison between BR and Club Monaco, but not an Incotex/BR one.
post #23 of 28
It is a bit of hyperbole to be sure, but if pressed, I would say that the main differences are in fabric and not in construction. The waistbands are probably somewhat better, but the construction is not all that great. Borrelli makes a better pant than Incotex imo. I could be totally wrong, but this is my basic observation.
post #24 of 28
I hate to resurrect a dead thread but... Which department stores carry the following flat front pants: -borelli -incotex -zegna -valentini -zanella -rlpl (ok, this one is obvious) -barba -jil sander -d&g -loro piana -malo -kiton I would like to get an idea how all of them fit me before I buy online. I am sure this would be helpful to know for many people out there.
post #25 of 28
In addition to those noted above, you might try Jil Sander, Dolce & Gabbana, Loro Piana, Malo, Kiton, etc.
post #26 of 28
I don't have a lot of data points but the Borrelli pants I have are far and away the best I own, in construction, fabrics and cut.
post #27 of 28
Steve's website has a tool to find such brands in stores, although the results might be outdated. Also, some of those designers are sure to have websites that list where to find in stores.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
Borrelli makes a better pant than Incotex imo.

I've seen Borellis that I'd swear on a stack of my mother's bibles were made by Incotex. Is it that Inco makes a better pant for Borelli than they do for their own label, or was I just crazy?
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