Originally Posted by JLibourel
I wouldn't say it was anything like a "cultural norm" when I was younger--of course we didn't have "lingerie parties" back then--but I think it has always been the case when a young woman puts herself in a position of extreme vulnerability in a highly sexualized situation she is likely to suffer indignities. I am not saying it's acceptable, merely that it is unsurprising and not particularly shocking.
At least one person made the comment that the "perp" may have been nearly as drunk as she was. It's highly probable the incident would never have occurred had both parties been sober. Women should recognize that male sexuality is inherently predatory, aggressive and opportunistic (and this is especially true when our inhibitions are unfettered by alcohol or other drugs) and comport themselves accordingly.
Some of you may think this is sexist, but I regard it as common prudence, just as a prudent man will avoid rough bars and unsavory company.
pretty much what I would say.
when I was a kid, parents drove around with their kids unbuckled, smoking in the car. I used to ride off on my bike in the morning without a helmet or cellphone and my parents wouldn't hear from me until dinner. times have changed - not necessarily for the better or worse in all cases. I don't think that I would want one of my friends to feel up a drunk girl who passed out at a party, but I don't think that I would have considered it a criminal act as much as something distasteful when I was a kid.
but, I was never at a party where everyone was in their underwear and passing out drunk. If I was 21 and pretty drunk and a good looking girl in her underwear was extremely drunk around me, I am not sure that I would have been a perfect gentleman about the whole thing.
I still feel that driving drunk is a serious issue - I'd much prefer for my daughter to tell me that somebody felt her up (were she 21) than to hear from a state trooper that she was killed in an accident.