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post #31 of 39
3/6/11 at 7:29am
Does it have to be a new car?

If I had my pick of cars it would definitely not be something new. As long as you have reliable transportation (not going to leave you stranded) I don't see why people are loathe to buy vintage cars as DD's.

I guess I can understand if you have no dedicated parking and can really only have 1 car.

Given that I had a garage/driveway I'd much rather have three $10,000 cars than one $30,000 car.

1. Commuter
2. Pickup
3. Coupe/roadster sports car
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post #32 of 39
3/6/11 at 12:05pm
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I'm 23 and live in the Northeast. PA and NY. And I believe it's based on the A4 platform. There have been spy photos out of a Q3, which is based off the Golf/A3 platform. If anything, the Q5 is a lifted A4 Avant. I may just go with the A4. I just emailed my sales rep who took the deposit for me on the Q5. I asked if he had any black A4's in stock because I may just come in an take one off the lot but I haven't hear anything. Their website has stuff listed but they may be accounted for. We'll see.


I learned something new today, I was under the impression that the Tiguan and Q5 was "the same" car, but with the Tiguan (from my knowledge) being build on a small platform, it's not the case then.

If you live somewhere where it snows in the winter I would choose the extra ride height, though the B8 avant is very good looking.
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post #33 of 39
3/6/11 at 12:18pm
Just to chime in the reliability of audis. we've had a 2003 a4 as a company car since it first came out. It now has almost 300,000kms on it and has never had any major issues at all, its been a tank. We have a 2010 A4 that already has 80,000kms on it and while its too early to really tell how reliable it is, aside from the lane assist not working once, nothing has been a problem yet either. we also have a 2003 tt roadster that barely gets driven but its only required routine maintenance.

We also have a 330xi which is always in the shop, and has been a terrible experience.

We're getting rid of the 2003 a4 and were debating between a Q5 and an A5 in the next month, and based on my experience with Audi, i expect it to be as good as all the other audis i've owned.
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post #34 of 39
3/6/11 at 12:28pm
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Just to chime in the reliability of audis. we've had a 2003 a4 as a company car since it first came out. It now has almost 300,000kms on it and has never had any major issues at all, its been a tank. We have a 2010 A4 that already has 80,000kms on it and while its too early to really tell how reliable it is, aside from the lane assist not working once, nothing has been a problem yet either. we also have a 2003 tt roadster that barely gets driven but its only required routine maintenance.

We also have a 330xi which is always in the shop, and has been a terrible experience.

We're getting rid of the 2003 a4 and were debating between a Q5 and an A5 in the next month, and based on my experience with Audi, i expect it to be as good as all the other audis i've owned.

I've always had the belief that if you stay on top of routine maintenance with modern cars, you shouldn't have any major problems. I think a lot of the problem with expensive cars is that rich people buy them, and then pay no attention to keeping them up. They don't change the oil or anything and problems pop up. That's just my theory. Not sure if it's true or anything.
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post #35 of 39
3/6/11 at 1:24pm
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I've always had the belief that if you stay on top of routine maintenance with modern cars, you shouldn't have any major problems. I think a lot of the problem with expensive cars is that rich people buy them, and then pay no attention to keeping them up. They don't change the oil or anything and problems pop up. That's just my theory. Not sure if it's true or anything.

Not quite true. Some of those cars are just not of good quality and not of consistent quality. The canard of idle, careless, rich people who neglect their cars is not true either. People who buy those cars are often successful, attentive, intelligent and educated people who own businesses and have professions and can afford both to buy and maintain their cars. Many also have enough technical knowledge to be able to judge whether a vehicle is any good or not. The one thing that buyers of these cars don't typically have is time to waste, especially on trips to the dealer for service for things that shouldn't be breaking in the first place.

Audi makes nice looking cars that perform well when they work (at least my n=1 experience was) but they are not as reliable as other brands with which they compete (and not saying BMW or M-B is any better, either.) I am sure there are just as many owners who will say their own BMWs are bulletproof also. The reality of small samples and anecdote.

If you want to look at owner satisfaction and reliability surveys, other brands like Porsche, Jaguar, Buick (believe it or not) and Lexus have bested all the others over the past several years.
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post #36 of 39
3/6/11 at 4:34pm
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Not quite true. Some of those cars are just not of good quality and not of consistent quality. The canard of idle, careless, rich people who neglect their cars is not true either. People who buy those cars are often successful, attentive, intelligent and educated people who own businesses and have professions and can afford both to buy and maintain their cars. Many also have enough technical knowledge to be able to judge whether a vehicle is any good or not. The one thing that buyers of these cars don't typically have is time to waste, especially on trips to the dealer for service for things that shouldn't be breaking in the first place.

Audi makes nice looking cars that perform well when they work (at least my n=1 experience was) but they are not as reliable as other brands with which they compete (and not saying BMW or M-B is any better, either.) I am sure there are just as many owners who will say their own BMWs are bulletproof also. The reality of small samples and anecdote.

If you want to look at owner satisfaction and reliability surveys, other brands like Porsche, Jaguar, Buick (believe it or not) and Lexus have bested all the others over the past several years.


I am surprised by this. Overall I am entirely skeptical of owner satisfaction surveys - at least of positive ones. I think I would have trouble admitting that I bought a lemon. On the flip side, I can see people who would be overly critical of a car's reliability given the high price they paid for it.

It would be nice if there was some kind of objective record of % of a certain model that was brought in for a certain type of service, though it seems that kind of record keeping is unlikely to happen.
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post #37 of 39
3/6/11 at 4:57pm
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I am surprised by this. Overall I am entirely skeptical of owner satisfaction surveys - at least of positive ones. I think I would have trouble admitting that I bought a lemon. On the flip side, I can see people who would be overly critical of a car's reliability given the high price they paid for it.

It would be nice if there was some kind of objective record of % of a certain model that was brought in for a certain type of service, though it seems that kind of record keeping is unlikely to happen.

It was a bit of specialty news when it came out, but it is true. And I don't know why Jaguar owners would be any more prone to deny their dissatisfaction with their cars than any other high-priced make. Apparently quality control was a big part of the Ford management plan for Jaguar during the time they owned the company with significant positive results. What surprised me more was how well Buick did.
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post #38 of 39
3/6/11 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by Jbreen1 View Post
I think a lot of the problem with expensive cars is that rich people buy them, and then pay no attention to keeping them up. They don't change the oil or anything and problems pop up. That's just my theory. Not sure if it's true or anything.

what kind of logic is this? wouldn't rich people be more likely to be able to pay for routine services, rather than the types who are buying into the 'prestige' of a 3 series BMW and stretching all of their pennies to do so?
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post #39 of 39
3/6/11 at 6:50pm
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what kind of logic is this? wouldn't rich people be more likely to be able to pay for routine services, rather than the types who are buying into the 'prestige' of a 3 series BMW and stretching all of their pennies to do so?

Well that's kind of what I meant. It just seems like in general, to me, the luxury brands don't get taken care of as much as they should. I think a lot of the problems arise from people not maintaining them properly. I have no real basis for this conclusion, it's just a stereotype that I have for whatever reason.
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