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post #31 of 58
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Originally Posted by mrri77
My basic question is if all these expensive, highly marketed clothes can truly improve the average man's appearance in relation to their cost? I have encountered several men recently dressed in all the ubiquitous luxury brands (kiton, borrelli, zegna, oxxford, etc.), and the majority of them, while sartorially impeccable, were still very underwhelming visually. On paper, these outfits should have been sartorial homeruns, but they adapted to the ordinariness of their wearers.

Beyond finding the most flattering silhouette, some men drop the ball accessorising the suits they wear.
I know men who wear a 4,000 suit and are stuck in the 80's with their neckwear. Wearing those bold, loud colors and patterns. Scuffed shoes and ill fitting shirts. Some wear less than flattering suit colors. These all distract, confuse and distort the image seen.
Look at some cars. They look great in one color and not so great in others. Add some nice wheels, low profile tires, some tint on the windows and the car is transformed.
Expensive clothing on its own is no guarantee of personal style or of looking your best. Dressing well is a discipline that takes a little basic knowledge and some know how to execute. How much you spend on your clothes isn't as important as the styles you choose and how you choose to wear them.
post #32 of 58
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I've been noticing that you regularly take shots at the skinny guys. If any of them go missing, I'll know who to look for.

LOL. It's because I'm envious of the extra choices the skinny guys have. As a 36" waist I am out of the game.
post #33 of 58
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I know men who wear a 4,000 suit and are stuck in the 80's with their neckwear. Wearing those bold, loud colors and patterns. Scuffed shoes and ill fitting shirts.

I notice the a lot in Atlanta as well. Many times I see an old beat up belt and scuffed shoes paired with a Zegna or Brioni suit. Looks terrible...

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Expensive clothing on its own is no guarantee of personal style or of looking your best. Dressing well is a discipline that takes a little basic knowledge and some know how to execute. How much you spend on your clothes isn't as important as the styles you choose and how you choose to wear them.

Well said.
post #34 of 58
Armani, Gucci, and Prada does not make stuff for "skinny guys" since their smallest sizes tend to be something like a 38 or the rare 36.
post #35 of 58
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The problem with Kiton is that they only have a top end while the others start at s100's and so do the prices

Exactly...very good point.

Kiton starts at s150s? Attolini s150s (in the same range of quality) cost about the same as Kiton. I`m not sure if Borrelli offers that type of material, but if they did I imagine the price range would be similar as well.

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Looking stylish in well made clothes is more a matter of correct silhouette paired to the wearer.

I think this is the first major mistake most men make when choosing their clothes. It seems a lot men buy by brand name/reputation rather than what is best for themselves. For example, a large, muscular and chubby built man going crazy over his new Isaia suit.

While it seems many pay attention to the fit of the jacket, I think it`s important not to forget about the fit/tailoring of the shirt and pants as well.

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Beyond finding the most flattering silhouette, some men drop the ball accessorising the suits they wear

Pairing expensive jackets with cheap accessories is another big mistake in my opinion. I can`t understand why someone would pair a $1 (or whatever) pocket square with a $100 tie and a suit that costs over $1000.
post #36 of 58
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Armani, Gucci, and Prada does not make stuff for "skinny guys" since their smallest sizes tend to be something like a 38 or the rare 36.

I have no idea what their smallest size is, but I have worn size 34 Gucci for years.
post #37 of 58
I am trying to answer the question of whether or not expensive clothing is really necessary. My answer is it depends. If one is about to embark on a career in investment banking, wearing name brands or designer clothing is absolutely required. On the other hand, if one works at an engineering firms, the answer is probably not. Since most of the top level managers at these firms dress like a slob.

The bottom line is whether or not one can distinguish the differences between the expensive clothing and those that are in-expensive. If one can't tell the differences, then don't pay for the difference. I have friends that really can't tell the differences between my Kiton shirts and those Alfani shirts (Macys), if that is the case, stick with Alfani.

Keep in mind that clothing, like pretty much everything else I can think of (i.e. watches, cars) is abounded by the law of diminish return. Example: a $5000 Rolex is not going to be twice as good as a $2500 Omega watch, a $120,000 MB S600 will not be twice as good as a $60,000 Lexus LS 430 or 6 times better than a Honda Accord. Marketing accounts for a large portion of the extra $, as mentioned by other forum members. Another big factor is the economies of scales (i.e. volumn).
post #38 of 58
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Originally Posted by Dragon
I have no idea what their smallest size is, but I have worn size 34 Gucci for years.
Only the Asian Gucci stores tend to carry the 34 or Euro44 for suits, jackets, etc. Otherwise, they never have any of those sizes.
post #39 of 58
Style obviously isn't something you can buy and, I think, is first of all in the overall look, cleanliness and cut of the clothes.

But as you learn along the way of your sartorial journey prices simply DO rise as you are looking for more and more fantastic sartorial details that are obviously only recognised by few and than only from upclose.
post #40 of 58
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Originally Posted by Dragon
Kiton starts at s150s? Attolini s150s (in the same range of quality) cost about the same as Kiton. I`m not sure if Borrelli offers that type of material, but if they did I imagine the price range would be similar as well.

They're all very close. I think Attolini may actually be slightly more expensive than Kiton for the US at least. Borrelli has high-numbered wools, and the prices are comparable to Kiton for comparable cloths.

--Andre
post #41 of 58
Definitely do not need any expensive clothes or expensive anything. The problem is that I want things that turn out to be extremely expensive.
post #42 of 58
That you cant buy style is a lie in these days.
You can buy a guy to buy stylish things?

And that Kiton & Attaloni doesn't do much PR is a PR in it's self isn't it?
I don't think that they want people that don't afford it comes to they're store...
It's just annoying with a crowded little store, right?

That is what they don't want and that I understand very much, it's like the finest resturants,
Just recommendence through people is the best PR, that's a fact!
post #43 of 58
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Originally Posted by iyorito
Definitely do not need any expensive clothes or expensive anything. The problem is that I want things that turn out to be extremely expensive.


What he said.
post #44 of 58
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Originally Posted by LARon
What he said.
I guess I only read the headline..............
post #45 of 58
Yes, as it seperates the plebs and philistines from the true rulers of the World, and masters of the Universe.
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