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Originally Posted by Chopper88 View Post

Hermès, it's the 'Carpe Diem'. (Also known as '
Gloria Soli'). It's from '94.

Although I must say, I've never seen one so thin, the colour also seems slightly faded. Think it was used a lot of times?

It's rare to see silk voile used for a pocket square. More often it's used for ladies garments and accessories—hankies, dresses, etc.
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Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC View Post


It's rare to see silk voile used for a pocket square. More often it's used for ladies garments and accessories—hankies, dresses, etc.

 

I've seen Hermès do this on some more designs, but had never seen it on the Carpe Diem. Hence my question.

 

I didn't know about the voile though, is this different from mousseline?

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Mousseline de soie is between organza and chiffon or voile. It has a crisper hand than your square presents.

"Mousseline" is basically "muslin" in French, so that should give you an idea of the difference.
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Originally Posted by Morning View Post

That's one amazing PS! Brand?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Chopper88 View Post

Hermès, it's the 'Carpe Diem'. (Also known as 'Gloria Soli'). It's from '94.

Although I must say, I've never seen one so thin, the colour also seems slightly faded. Think it was used a lot of times?

^Correct!

It's absolutely thin, but doesn't appear to have been used much, certainly not enough to create wear.
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Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC View Post

It's rare to see silk voile used for a pocket square. More often it's used for ladies garments and accessories—hankies, dresses, etc.

Thank you! I read the earlier posts on my phone and could not remember what it was. It was driving me crazy!
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Originally Posted by Chopper88 View Post

I've seen Hermès do this on some more designs, but had never seen it on the Carpe Diem. Hence my question.

I didn't know about the voile though, is this different from mousseline?

I had never seen it on this one either which was part of the reason I bought it.
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Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC View Post

Mousseline de soie is between organza and chiffon or voile. It has a crisper hand than your square presents.

"Mousseline" is basically "muslin" in French, so that should give you an idea of the difference.

Good to know, it's hard to keep them straight.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC View Post

Mousseline de soie is between organza and chiffon or voile. It has a crisper hand than your square presents.

"Mousseline" is basically "muslin" in French, so that should give you an idea of the difference.

 

Thank you for the useful info!

 

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Originally Posted by HansderHund View Post

It's absolutely thin, but doesn't appear to have been used much, certainly not enough to create wear.

 

Ok, nice to hear, I only know them from photos, but haven't held one yet. Your photo makes it look thinner than I've ever seen before, thats why I asked :)

Have you worn it yet? I wonder how the layers of colours look when 'using' it.

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The above differentiation in silk seems to me important to consider when I look for pocket squares. Hermes is high quality at high price.
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Picked up 2 similar patterned (different color combinations) PS in a thrift yesterday. Decided to try 1 today, which I thought would go well with a green tie. Is the link between the green tie and green background of the PS too subtle?

 

Sorry for the lousy pic (and lousy fold/puff for that matter; first time ever I wear anything other than classic white fold):

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I like the combo. The tie knot, on the other hand, I do not.
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this ^
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And here's another of our pocket-square vintage still hand-printed many years ago, getting all hemmed by hand ..

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This just in

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That one's a stunner in person, regret not grabbing it

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Nice. I just snagged one of the 'Dancing Elephant' style at the Nieman's sale.
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I think I've been in NM once in 15 years here.
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Thread Starter 
I'll see if I can summarize a few points from my perspective and experience.

- Sometimes I like the look of no pocket square when I want a more minimalistic overall look or when wearing a very expressive scarf.
-You don't need a lot of them. A few in the right colors and patterns will serve you very well.
-I recommend a white linen, a couple of 100% silk and a couple in a mix of wool/silk (wool/silk for fall/winter). You might want a cotton one for spring/summer. All look best with hand rolled and hand sewn edges.
-For size it depends entirely on the weight of the fabric. I have 18" ones that have less bulk than 12" ones so there is no rule.
-When I buy a square I open it up, grab the middle, give it a twist and jam it into my chest pocket. If too bulky I don't buy it.
-For patterns aside from your all white linen, get one with polka dots, one with a medium sized paisley pattern and then (my favorite) very large sweeping paisley. I avoid small paisleys because they too often are similar in size to patterns on many ties.
-For color basics get solid white linen, a blue and white pattern, a brick or paprika colored pattern, purple pattern, brown and deep blue or deep gold and navy is nice as well. Of course the actual shade should compliment the color of your favorite jackets and accessories. I love a bright, multiple colored plaid cotton for summer.
- I avoid pocket squares with obvious graphic images and icons. They are fun for a party or travel, but not when trying to make a more elegant or professional appearance.
- Cheap silk fabrics look cheap and often have odd shades of color. Avoid these.
- For cotton or linen pocket squares the finest are made by Simonnot-Godard. Different retailers sell different sizes. Their linen is fairly bulky so go for the smaller size if in doubt.
-I think the most creative and expressive silk or silk/wool pocket squares are made by Etro. Many are rather wild combinations of patterns and colors. But when jammed into your pocket, they take on a whole different look. Certainly not for everyone but they are an ideal way to add something extra to a solid colored or traditional patterned jacket.

For expressive pocket squares, aside from Etro, I highly recommend seeking out the British company Seaward & Stearn. They have beautiful color combinations and patterns. These are the ones to consider when you can show a little more color and flair such as for parties, heading out for drinks, travel, etc. They have a nice assortment of designs in cotton, silk and wool blends.

But, get your basic colors and patterns first before starting to assemble a range of more colorful and graphic pocketsquares. The expressive ones are nice to have at the right time, but most often I grab one of five or so of my classic colors and patterns. Plus the classics tend to mix and match with more jackets and tie combos ...that is why they are classic.
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