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post #9976 of 19061
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

When I was a young man just getting into the Trade, I struggled with fit...I think every maker does. Yet most of my contemporaries in the bootmaking business, and esp. some of the older guys, were insistent that they had never had a misfit. Never had a complaint. Never. Ever.

Even in the beginning I knew that wasn't true. Not just from my own struggles but from talking to customers who were on the "rebound" from some of these makers, and who not only had fit problems but had indeed complained to the maker (who apparently just didn't want to hear it).

For some years I couldn't understand that kind of mentality. It seemed dishonest to me.

Then one evening I was talking to one of the legends of the Trade over a brew or two and I mentioned this...and expressed my contempt for people who would lie about something so fundamental.

The "legend" said something that has stuck with me over the years...he said "Everyone has misfits. It's part of the learning process and if you don't have misfits you don't learn anything and you cannot grow or get better. But," he want on, "those old boys aren't lying, they just need a better definition of fit." Without a definition that answers to the laws of physics and to reality and the possibility that the fit isn't ideal, anything goes. Any fit is OK...even if it isn't.

I still don't believe it's ethical to so cavalierly dismiss knowledge as well as the concerns of customers who trust you to know and do right by them. But as I said--just about anything is possible but that doesn't make it right.

Okay.....that's your view.
In the case of the AE shoe. The one I posted a picture of.
What would you do?
post #9977 of 19061
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Originally Posted by Nick V. View Post

Okay.....that's your view.
In the case of the AE shoe. The one I posted a picture of.
What would you do?

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Put in a leather or fiber shank. Both of them are flexible enough that if the heel stack has not been "altered," the shoe, as well as the insole and outsole, should return to its original shape. It's not a permanent solution but it will probably last as long as the original fiber shank/"tuck" did.

Putting in a rigid shank that has not been made to mirror the bottom of the last is changing the fundamental shape of the insole and second-guessing the last designer and the maker.
post #9978 of 19061

I remember seeing a thread about removing or dealing with stickiness on the inside (upper/inner) of a pair of shoes.  I can't seem to find this thread so I hoping someone can direct me to it or has a solution handy.  I recently acquired a pair of used black Allen Edmonds tassel loafers.  The previous owner used a piece of plastic to cover a very sticky area near the top of the shoe where it covers the top of the foot.  The other shoe lacks this sticky area.  I would love to remove this offending stickiness without causing harm to the shoes.  Much thanks for your assistance.

 

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post #9979 of 19061
I would think renomat and elbow grease could remove the stickiness.
post #9980 of 19061
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

cheers.gif

Put in a leather or fiber shank. Both of them are flexible enough that if the heel stack has not been "altered," the shoe, as well as the insole and outsole, should return to its original shape. It's not a permanent solution but it will probably last as long as the original fiber shank/"tuck" did.

Putting in a rigid shank that has not been made to mirror the bottom of the last is changing the fundamental shape of the insole and second-guessing the last designer and the maker.

Thanks for the input but, I don't like the idea. When/if they fail I get the shoe back only to have to take the whole thing apart again.
The company has been around over 100 years. Me, north of 40. This is the way we have always done it.


Whether you believe me or not is no concern to me. I'm the one that has to deal with the issues nobody else.
If I had problems with a method and or material I would have to be crazy not to make adjustments/ corrections. Many here on SF use our services. Has anybody ever had a problem with a shank after we re-crafted your shoes?
post #9981 of 19061
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Originally Posted by benhour View Post

i dont think thats quite good idea cause this way you add solvents(turpentine-naphtha etc ) in cordovan cream where they are not indented to be! + this wont save you from the Dusty effect(i have tried that with no success) and brand line! the only thing i can think is that she use neutral so not to alter the color of the new pair !!

I hear you, I learned that from someone well respected here beleive it was Ron Rider. I do know and acknowledge your point, even though I'm not fully convinced that natural turpetine that Saphir uses,used in miniscule amount is going to ruin your cordovan shoes. But for the perfectionist it is best to buy different colored cordovan creams oouch expensive!.

I switch b/w Reno, Creme Universaille, and neutral cordovan(depending on my mood smile.gif) and am pleased. IMO there is no cure for dusting effect other than keeping a brush in your drawer and giving it a light buff once in a while.
Edited by sstomcat - 6/30/14 at 1:06pm
post #9982 of 19061
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I would think renomat and elbow grease could remove the stickiness.


Ok ordered some and will report back.  Thanks!

post #9983 of 19061
Thread Starter 
Wow, when I started this thread I never thought it would reach 10,000 posts (and, soon enough, 1,000,000 views!)
post #9984 of 19061
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Wow, when I started this thread I never thought it would reach 10,000 posts (and, soon enough, 1,000,000 views!)

Well congrats.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuyaK0hGxWk

But always enjoyable.
post #9985 of 19061
I saw something today that bugged me. I went into this rinky-dink shoe repair shop near where I work to buy some Lexol today. There was this guy in there with a pair of strange leather shoes with rubber soles and like holes in them (kind of like half sandal, half dress shoe looking things). The rubber soles were separating from the upper. He asked the guy how much it would be to fix them. The guy at the counter was examining them and I could see it in his face he wanted to tell the guy, "are you fucking kidding me? Throw these out you cheap fuck!" But he says, I can do it for $26. I thought in my head, wow that's cheap. The guy who owned the shoes looked flabbergasted and was like, "Serious? These are $30 new! No way!"

What's wrong with people? confused.gif
post #9986 of 19061
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I saw something today that bugged me. I went into this rinky-dink shoe repair shop near where I work to buy some Lexol today. There was this guy in there with a pair of strange leather shoes with rubber soles and like holes in them (kind of like half sandal, half dress shoe looking things). The rubber soles were separating from the upper. He asked the guy how much it would be to fix them. The guy at the counter was examining them and I could see it in his face he wanted to tell the guy, "are you fucking kidding me? Throw these out you cheap fuck!" But he says, I can do it for $26. I thought in my head, wow that's cheap. The guy who owned the shoes looked flabbergasted and was like, "Serious? These are $30 new! No way!"

What's wrong with people? confused.gif

 

See the little cheap fuck with the sandals and rubber soles
Yeah buddy that’s his own shoes
That little cheap fuck got his own jet airplane
That little cheap fuck he’s a millionaire

post #9987 of 19061
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

See the little cheap fuck with the sandals and rubber soles
Yeah buddy that’s his own shoes
That little cheap fuck got his own jet airplane
That little cheap fuck he’s a millionaire

Does being a millionaire absolve him of being a dick?
post #9988 of 19061

I think he's paraphrasing Dire Straits....

post #9989 of 19061
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Originally Posted by jssdc View Post

I think he's paraphrasing Dire Straits....

Oh, sorry...I'm too old.

Point stands, though.
post #9990 of 19061

I bought my first pair of Crocket & Jones shoes the other day, I decided to bull them first to get a couple of good "skins" on them before brush polishing them when needed, from time to time i will maintain the shin e with a quick bulling.

 

Not a very good phone photo I'm afraid.

 

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