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I'm still not clear on the brushes. If I understand correctly, brushing is to remove the excessive polish/cream. So does this mean I need a separate brush for just dusting before/after wearing when I'm not polishing? That way I don't get any loose/leftover polish or cream on the shoe.

 

That sounds like overkill to me.  I use one brush for black, one for brown / cherry / burgundy and one for tan shoes.

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Do I need a dauber or is that what the t-shirt is for? I see quite a few people mention never really using theirs but then see others saying it's needed for adding cream into the shoes welts and such.

 

I use a piece of old undershirt (or even underwear) to add cream to the shoe.  For areas hard to reach, I use an old toothbrush.

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I have 6 brushes; 3 stiff ones for cleaning, 3 soft ones for buffing. One set for black, one set for mid to dark brown, one set for very light to mid brown.
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VSC is garbage, it contains petroleum distillates.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

VSC is garbage, it contains petroleum distillates.

 

But Nick from Horween suggests it for shell and it seems to work well from my experience, what's the downside?

 

Would you use the GlenKaren conditioner on shell?

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I also wondered if that rec was a chicago thing on VSC? I have no direct experience with it, so far the reno and lexol seem to be doing fine.
post #9651 of 19213
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Originally Posted by Petepan View Post

Glenkaren is a healthy alternative.  Much more work though, but pleasing results. Thin latex gloves minimizes wastage, as the stuff is not soaked into the cloth or brush when being applied.

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What do you mean by "much more work"? I use it the sameway as any other polish whether its AE premium polish or Saphir cream polish.

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Have you tried the cleaner/conditioner?

Are you saying that the cleaner conditioner is much more work? I personally don't find that at all. A little dab on a tshirt or dauber and work it into the leather just like any other cleaner conditioner. The leather soaks it up very nicely as you rub it in. If anything their polish is a little more work due to it's sticky residue but admittedly I tend to apply it heavily.
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But Nick from Horween suggests it for shell and it seems to work well from my experience, what's the downside?

Would you use the GlenKaren conditioner on shell?

I use their regular cream, there is enough oil in it. I find the cleaner conditioner to have too much oil for routine use.

As to Nick Horween, I don't care what he says, I'm not putting something on my shoes that is derived from the same thing that fuels a car. Like mentioned, I think they say to use it because the company who makes the stuff is their Chicago neighbor.
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I use their regular cream, there is enough oil in it. I find the cleaner conditioner to have too much oil for routine use.

As to Nick Horween, I don't care what he says, I'm not putting something on my shoes that is derived from the same thing that fuels a car. Like mentioned, I think they say to use it because the company who makes the stuff is their Chicago neighbor.

 

I understand where you are coming from, I still need to grab some GlenKaren

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I have been using Venetian Shoe Cream on my CXL boots for a while and have been very happy with the results. I did my research and don't recall reading anything about VSC ruining shoes - just lots of positive reviews. I mostly use Saphir products now and did consider purchasing their version of CXL cream but at three times the price ($21 vs $7) I didn't see the point.

 

I'm also not a big fan of conspircay theories so I don't buy into the "Chicago thing." As a former business owner I can tell you that your loyalty is foremost to your customers and your employees and you tend to not tolerate much that may interfere with that.

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Well, Goodman, if shiny shoes is something that you want then go for it because it will make your shoes shiny, but it doesn't mean there aren't better alternatives. Also, take people's advice with a grain of salt. Some people who post they have great experiences with a product maybe have two pairs of shoes they have had for a year. Their opinion and experience means little.
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But Nick from Horween suggests it for shell and it seems to work well from my experience, what's the downside?

After he had done extensive research, pB wrote a series of posts that are pretty much definitive about shoe care products...right here in this thread, as I recall. Maybe he can tell you what post numbers they were but, in any case, they should be required reading.

But...and no disrespect intended...don't bother if you're willing to take advertising claims or selective endorsement at face value.
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I noticed something about that Lexol interview I posted recently. Back when it was posted a few years ago one of the Summit employees explicitly stated it was a synthetic sperm whale oil, but in all of the currently available transcripts of that same interview it is excluded. I definitely think that phd said that and then the company rescinded that remark because their emulsion is "proprietary".
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Any advice on a solution for a possible water stain on these new AE Strand seconds, the mark is pretty subtle under normal conditios (pic is under bright LED lights). The mark started to show itself as I removed the excess polish on the shoe. I would not like to cover them with more polish.

 

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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post

Any advice on a solution for a possible water stain on these new AE Strand seconds, the mark is pretty subtle under normal conditios (pic is under bright LED lights). The mark started to show itself as I removed the excess polish on the shoe. I would not like to cover them with more polish.



Probably not going to happen. This is always a risk with lighter coloured leathers and it happens usually during lasting. When a maker decides to use water during lasting or expose the shoe to moisture for any reason, it is always best to expose the whole shoe to an equal amount of water, apply a conditioner immediately, and let the shoe dry slowly.

Once a water stain occurs, however, it is often set permanently...simply because a water stain is essentially a residue of dyestuffs and chemicals (including tanning salts) that have dissolved, been transported, and then left behind as the water evaporates.

If you ever get your shoes soaking wet (I mean soaking wet) you might remember to heavily condition them with something like Lexol or Bick4 and let them dry really slowly. that might work and it might not but I would not advise trying it as a direct remedy.
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Water stain CANNOT be removed on light colored leathers.

Best save is to conceal using dark shoe creams. Or paint the shoe darker.

I've tried renomat, acetone, dye preparer, deglazing liquid, and even diluted bleach. None of them made water stain on a pair of very light brown shoes go away.
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