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post #8596 of 19072

If you are not going to wear a particular pair of shoes, what should you put on them?  I have got as far as shoe trees and bags but what about a product? I don't, particularly, want to keep taking them out of the bags to clean them. 

 

I have this nagging feeling that once they are in their bags, they will be forgotten. 

post #8597 of 19072
Condition before they go into storage. If it is long enough before they reappear condition them again before wearing.
post #8598 of 19072

Thanks, Patrick

post #8599 of 19072

For those folks who use Reno routinely, do you find it dries the leather significantly on the areas which don't receive a lot of wax ? I generally apply 2 layers of shoe cream post using reno (and buff post each application) but the leather feels dry and "lifeless" the next day.

 

A more philosophical question - if I am using shoe cream, do I need to use a separate conditioner (presuming I dont use the conditioner for the cleaning attribute but more for "hydrating") ? 

post #8600 of 19072
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Originally Posted by RIDER View Post

I haven't seen or heard much about Bick 4 for years (I used to sell it in our retail shop as a local finder thought it was a great product, and was one of the things that I found unsatisfactory which lead me to look at options outside of the typical US leather products I had been using/selling) but I remember that it was very caustic - for me.


I'm not entirely sure we're talking about the same product. I regular (and have done for many years) block large pieces of leather to make full wellington--full front boots. I'm not using soft or garment grade leathers but leathers such as French calf, Italian kangaroo and sometimes buffalo calf. (as well as cow and other rough stuff) . to do that I have to chase huge pipes wrinkles with great vigour...without damaging the finish or the leathers. I use Bick4 as a lubricant. I have never seen it take off even a little finish. Lexol will damage some finishes when that much rubbing is employed but not Bick4.

Maybe they've changed their formula?
post #8601 of 19072
It is scary, that according to the MSDS it says there are silicones in it.

I honestly think getting some pure Dr. Bronner's coconut oil is probably the best thing you can put on leather in terms of conditioning.
post #8602 of 19072
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Some solvents are of course more deleterious than others, such as aromatic hydrocarbons. Then of course there is the universal solvent - water!

Spot on. And I'm not against solvents per se.

But to the extent that when the solvents have evaporated, all, or most of what's left, is sitting on the surface...as is the case with conditioners that are replete with wax or un-homogenized fats...it quickly be comes clear that nothing has penetrated the leather except the solvents themselves. The solvent, enter the leather, dissolve the resident fat,s and oils and carry them out of the leather as the solvent evaporates. And the so called "conditioners" are left sitting on the surface to collect grit and dirt..

For me this is not a dissing of any one particular product (although there are some...). I like Reno, to a point and I like Lexol in some circumstances and GK in others and RM William's in others.
post #8603 of 19072

How significant are these varying degrees of opinion about what to put on shoes? The arguments sometimes remind me of 'how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin'. As a relative novice in these matters, I would welcome the occasional consensus view. A year or so ago, everyone thought that Reno was a good thing. Now it seems to be in some sort of decline. Now, Glenkaren products seem to have peaked. What next? Yours,Munky. 

post #8604 of 19072
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How significant are these varying degrees of opinion about what to put on shoes? The arguments sometimes remind me of 'how many fairies can dance on the head of a pin'. As a relative novice in these matters, I would welcome the occasional consensus view. A year or so ago, everyone thought that Reno was a good thing. Now it seems to be in some sort of decline. Now, Glenkaren products seem to have peaked. What next? Yours,Munky. 

Some opinions are of informed,experienced souls, common sense should be enough to pick up who they are and what they suggest.

You spend almost all your sf activity in its entirety on this thread, I would have thought even a monkey (excusing the pun) would have figured out which regiment to follow!
post #8605 of 19072
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

It is scary, that according to the MSDS it says there are silicones in it.

I honestly think getting some pure Dr. Bronner's coconut oil is probably the best thing you can put on leather in terms of conditioning.

Have you tried any of the Glen Karen Products, specifically the cleaner conditioner? I'm curious as to your thoughts if you have.
post #8606 of 19072
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

It is scary, that according to the MSDS it says there are silicones in it.

I honestly think getting some pure Dr. Bronner's coconut oil is probably the best thing you can put on leather in terms of conditioning.

Well, I have to say I didn't know that. I have called most of these companies--Lexol, Bickmore, etc., trying to get information about ingredients. They are not very forthcoming. I may have to look at Bick4 more closely.

I'm not sure about coconut oil either.

Munky,

Everything in moderation.
post #8607 of 19072
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

It is scary, that according to the MSDS it says there are silicones in it.

I honestly think getting some pure Dr. Bronner's coconut oil is probably the best thing you can put on leather in terms of conditioning.

Spit
post #8608 of 19072

Yes, Stirling, I appreciate that there is a huge amount of experience being shared on here and I appreciate that.  I think that we have all learned from these experts. And you are right that I only post on this thread. The question I raised, though, was not a trivial one. I am interested to know the degree to which various shoe products really do and really don't work.

 

I am not as daft as I sound!

post #8609 of 19072
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post

Have you tried any of the Glen Karen Products, specifically the cleaner conditioner? I'm curious as to your thoughts if you have.

I pretty much use them exclusively except for some reno on a toe and hell now and again. Just the fact that there are few ingredients and all of them are labeled gives me peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

Well, I have to say I didn't know that. I have called most of these companies--Lexol, Bickmore, etc., trying to get information about ingredients. They are not very forthcoming. I may have to look at Bick4 more closely.

I'm not sure about coconut oil either.

Munky,

Everything in moderation.

Rubber shoes... frown.gif
post #8610 of 19072
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I pretty much use them exclusively except for some reno on a toe and hell now and again. Just the fact that there are few ingredients and all of them are labeled gives me peace of mind.
Rubber shoes... frown.gif

Are you sure about that?
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