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Fair enough. :uhoh:

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One thing I have noticed is that 'price doesn't ensure fit'. I have a couple of pairs of (fairly) expensive shoes that don't fit as well as some cheaper ones. 

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I have a lot of expensive shoes that don't fit. By bespoke standards, none of them do. Not enough so that adding insoles would make them even marginally better.
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So are you saying that you have shoes that are so badly fitting that adding a corrective insole wouldn't make them better? I wanted to be clear about your second sentence. How did you come to have a 'lot of expensive shoes that don't fit?' Is it that they appear to fit when you try them on? If so, I have a lot of shoes like that; they seem ok when I try them on and then much less so when I wear them. What's the solution?

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I thought I'd post this here because it would interest some members...

On Tuesday I visited the Saint Crispin's trunk show at Leffot to make an order and speak with Phillip Car of St. Crispin's.

I asked him what the recommended maintenance program was for Saint Crispin's and he told me exactly this, "Just use wax, no cream or any of that reno-shit".

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Yep. I have had the same conversation with him.


Well it's settled then. St Crispins are just as confused about shoe care as this thread! Lol.

I am quite surprised by Mr Cars advice on cream, particularly since it's contradicted on his website as St Crispins specifically recommend using Saphir medaille d'or cream. But I suppose SC are a bit peculiar like that, they even recommend washing your shoes with saddle soap four times a year.
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

I have a lot of shoes like that;

How many shoes do you have Munky?
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

So are you saying that you have shoes that are so badly fitting that adding a corrective insole wouldn't make them better? I wanted to be clear about your second sentence. How did you come to have a 'lot of expensive shoes that don't fit?' Is it that they appear to fit when you try them on? If so, I have a lot of shoes like that; they seem ok when I try them on and then much less so when I wear them. What's the solution?

Shoes not fitting has to do with many things. The fact remains if you need to put an insole in the shoe to wear it, don't buy it. Fit issues that I have had I find irrespective of the insole.
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Well it's settled then. St Crispins are just as confused about shoe care as this thread! Lol.

I am quite surprised by Mr Cars advice on cream, particularly since it's contradicted on his website as St Crispins specifically recommend using Saphir medaille d'or cream. But I suppose SC are a bit peculiar like that, they even recommend washing your shoes with saddle soap four times a year.

Yeah, the stuff on the website I don't quite get. Not using Reno is definitely something I can get behind.
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They could throw off the fit however. Good shoes are meant to be worn with their own insole. Putting anything in them throws off the proportions inside. I'd find shoes that fit you best without the need of those silly insoles that actually probably contribute to your foot problems.

You're a natural, pB! You've got it in one.

Unless they are actually orthotics and fit to the shoe as well as your foot, you're asking for trouble.

Yes, people do it. And seemingly get away with it. But as I have said many times, the consequences of a mis-fit will not, in all probability be noticeable until years down the road and no way of going back.

And the other truth is that a good fitting shoe will preserve, and even...to some small extent...correct, foot problems that have developed or are in the process.My wife was developing a fallen metatarsal arch and bunions when I first started making her footwear. I didn't believe it myself but the bunion, at least, never happened.

One thing to consider...most of us are born with perfect feet and we'd keep those feet if we didn't wear shoes. But if you take off your socks and stand upright and look down at your feet...and if you cannot lay a straight-edge along the medial side of your feet and have it touch the foot from heel to the end of the big toe, you've already got some distortion of the fundamental structure and health of the foot.

Most of us do...and a lot of it won't affect you until you're old. But if you have bunions or hammer-toes or a thick, hard callus somewhere under the middle of joint-line of your foot...chances are the damage is done.

At the very least, you're a long way from home.
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Not using Reno is definitely something I can get behind.

Not using saphir at all is something I could get behind!

The best shoe shine polish I ever used I made myself.
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

You're a natural, pB! You've got it in one.

I've learned from the best. teacha.gif
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Not using saphir at all is something I could get behind!

The best shoe shine polish I ever used I made myself.

All of the stuff I use now is made by a forum member here.
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I have a question regarding Kirby's "presidential shine" routine (http://www.hangerproject.com/shoe-care-guide/presidential-shoe-shine-guide)

 

In step 4, application of pommadier cream, he writes "...we recommend applying three successive coats to rebuild the protective wax finish. After using the RENOMAT ...". Now, does that mean that one should apply 1 coat of cream, wait for it to dry, then buff it out, and apply one more, OR one should apply 1 coat, wait for it to dry, and then apply a successive coat on top of the dried one?

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Do yourself a favor and ignore everything Kirby says about shoe care. I love the guy, but he's over the top with that stuff.
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I've learned from the best. teacha.gif


It ain't who you learn from, it's simply that you can...and then you can learn from anyone.

It's not a universal skill, however..
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All this chat about 'fit' is fascinating. I will certainly bear in mind what you say, pB and DWF about not buying shoes that need an added insole. I have this one pair of shoes, which weren't particularly expensive, which are the first to fit me without an added support. What is ironic is that I bought them - new - on the internet and they are the most comfortable shoes I have. 

 

Some of us have to settle for reasonably  inexpensive shoes and so do not appreciate the fit of better shoes. I suspect, too, that some people who have to buy cheaper shoes make up for it by buying expensive shoe products.

 

I have 12 pairs of shoes and wish that I had just 3 pairs of better quality. 

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