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post #8236 of 18837
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post

I noticed that the bottom part of the sole of a new pair of G&G seams to be separating off the shoe. I have only worn these shoes 2-3 times. Recommendations??

Well, that's part of the high price...that's the channel that was deliberately cut into the outsole to hide / protect the outsole stitching. It's supposed to be glued down and only wear away slowly. But sometimes the glues being used are water based. If you got these shoes wet....so that the soles were absorbing water and the sealing glue was water soluble...this is bound to happen.

I will say it's a perennial problem for shoemakers large and small. All purpose is neoprene and toluene based, waterproof, don't require clamping, and are environmentally hazardous and probably toxic. They also leave a rubbery residue at the edges that resists waxes and other finishing techniques.

The traditional pastes are all water and starch based; are non-toxic. easily made and disposed of and finish up nicely. They do require clamping or pressure and will dissolve and loosen when wet.

Take it to a shoe repair and ask them to re-glue (and hammer) it with all purpose.
post #8237 of 18837
For vegetable tanned leather, what is the best conditioner? I bought Buttero sneakers and would like to keep them in good form in addition to horsehair brushing.

I have montana pitch blend that I use for chromexcel but since the Butteros didn't go through the chrome tanned process, wasn't sure if that was the best way to go. Before I do anything stupid, any ideas on how best to condition?
post #8238 of 18837
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post


Lol...this has never been a problem with my shoes...but jeans dye rubs off on the lighter colored leather seats of two of my cars giving them a bluish hue.

Thank god detailing gets it out every time.

Mine too...thank god for a company car.
post #8239 of 18837
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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post


Well, that's part of the high price...that's the channel that was deliberately cut into the outsole to hide / protect the outsole stitching. It's supposed to be glued down and only wear away slowly. But sometimes the glues being used are water based. If you got these shoes wet....so that the soles were absorbing water and the sealing glue was water soluble...this is bound to happen.

I will say it's a perennial problem for shoemakers large and small. All purpose is neoprene and toluene based, waterproof, don't require clamping, and are environmentally hazardous and probably toxic. They also leave a rubbery residue at the edges that resists waxes and other finishing techniques.

The traditional pastes are all water and starch based; are non-toxic. easily made and disposed of and finish up nicely. They do require clamping or pressure and will dissolve and loosen when wet.

Take it to a shoe repair and ask them to re-glue (and hammer) it with all purpose.


Thank you very much DWFII - your knowledge and expertise is always much appreciated :cheers:

post #8240 of 18837
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Originally Posted by IronStyle View Post

For vegetable tanned leather, what is the best conditioner? I bought Buttero sneakers and would like to keep them in good form in addition to horsehair brushing.

I have montana pitch blend that I use for chromexcel but since the Butteros didn't go through the chrome tanned process, wasn't sure if that was the best way to go. Before I do anything stupid, any ideas on how best to condition?
I use Glenkaren conditioner for my Butteros:

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post #8241 of 18837
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I use Glenkaren conditioner for my Butteros:

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've read about Glenkaren here but haven't tried it yet. I do have saphir creme universelle - do you think that would play the same role?

Also I got the same exact boot! Here they are before their first outing this week:

post #8242 of 18837
Do yours squeak as mine do? The squeak developed after a bunch of wears.

Creme universelle is probably fine, but I happen to prefer the simplicity and scientific basis behind the Glenkaren ingredients.
post #8243 of 18837
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Do yours squeak as mine do? The squeak developed after a bunch of wears.

Creme universelle is probably fine, but I happen to prefer the simplicity and scientific basis behind the Glenkaren ingredients.

Thanks for the input and they seem to both be good options considering they are non pigmented and are all natural. Anyone else use anything else on this type of leather?

Also no squeaks yet but it's only been one wear and these will be weekend shoes. Ill pay attention to any squeaking when I put pressure when stepping down and see what happens and report back. Only sound I hear yet is the soothing movement of leather like when crinkling my toes or bending my foot which I assume is just the leather adjusting and getting its first creases.
post #8244 of 18837
Yeah I developed some weird sole squeak that feels like it is around the ball of the foot during a stride.
post #8245 of 18837
Gawd even your sneakers are black...
post #8246 of 18837
Missus insisted on posting the question here, even though I reckon even renovateur can't get rid of the blue jeans tint on her brown bag.

any ideas? guys

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Nope, I read over at the Wolverine 1k Miles thread that the dye in jeans is basically impossible to remove. A possible solution may be to strip the leather and redye.
post #8248 of 18837

Maybe try some renomat? be careful though might strip the colour!

post #8249 of 18837
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Missus insisted on posting the question here, even though I reckon even renovateur can't get rid of the blue jeans tint on her brown bag.

any ideas? guys


I stated this before...but I have this problem with blue jeans and the leather of two of my car's seats.

 

I would honestly try and find out what leather cleaners a car wash uses when they do a "full detail" and try and use that....I guarantee it will get that out.

 

The car was gets it out of my car every time I have it detailed...so there is something out there that works.

post #8250 of 18837
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Gawd even your sneakers are black...

Well, I don't really wear them much. I wear them to walk to yoga and I went on a trip to Cambodia recently where they were worn daily.
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

Missus insisted on posting the question here, even though I reckon even renovateur can't get rid of the blue jeans tint on her brown bag.

any ideas? guys


Yeah, Renomat and elbow grease will get it out, but the leather will be very raw and maybe some of the color gone. If you do this condition the hell out of it when you're done. It may not be worth it to try and even out the color and if you try with polish you will find the pigment in the polish will rub off onto clothes. Best to think of the denim stains as "charm".
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