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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Don't get topy's.

/topytalk
post #767 of 11920
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Originally Posted by tv2177 View Post

$75 to $90 for a pair. dang!
I googled and found this topic about Topys on AAAC
Link

Meh. It's been long debated and I don't believe the whole thing about them ruining leather soles. That's that as far as I am concerned.
post #768 of 11920
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Originally Posted by tv2177 View Post

$75 to $90 for a pair. dang!
I googled and found this topic about Topys on AAAC
Link
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

I don't remember exactly but Topy's and flush metal toe taps cost me somewhere in the range of $75 - $90 at b. nelson when I got them done 3 months ago.

wow, this is one rare occasion that something is cheaper in Japan (flush metal top taps are around $50 or so)
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

wow, this is one rare occasion that something is cheaper in Japan (flush metal top taps are around $50 or so)

I think the breakdown might have been $35 for Topy and $40 for flush metal toe taps. Somewhere in that range, so maybe it was $75.
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Originally Posted by tv2177 View Post

$75 to $90 for a pair. dang!
I googled and found this topic about Topys on AAAC
Link

Meh. It's been long debated and I don't believe the whole thing about them ruining leather soles. That's that as far as I am concerned.

right, it has no class, though.
post #771 of 11920
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

right, it has no class, though.

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post #772 of 11920
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post


wow, this is one rare occasion that something is cheaper in Japan (flush metal top taps are around $50 or so)

add the topys and you're there. fifty is a massive rip off, though.
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add the topys and you're there. fifty is a massive rip off, though.

lolol yeah, what was I thinking.......almost thought I had a good deal getting my shoes done in Japan plain.gif
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

add the topys and you're there. fifty is a massive rip off, though.

lolol yeah, what was I thinking.......almost thought I had a good deal getting my shoes done in Japan plain.gif

oh boy, u are the very first person that I see on SF who is from my home town, taipei!
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How would you treat shoes this colour:

http://www.amazon.com/Sebago-Mens-Bowdoin-Slip--Brown/dp/B003I65C42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323971173&sr=8-1

I guess shining them will ruin the "burnished" effect?
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Hey guys, I have a few Allen Edmonds, and I am a short heavy guy, which makes my walking pretty heavy, and I pound the pavement.  My cobbler has convinced me in the past to get soleguards on the front of my leather-soled shoes, and so far they have done pretty well. I also got the plastic heel taps, so they dont make too much noise when I walk, and also so it doesnt void the AE recrafting policy.  The soleguards dont bother me looks-wise, even though I know the "purists" would disagree. Do people have other objections to putting Vibrams and plastic taps on shoes?  Do they seem to be a good idea to lengthen the life of the shoe?  It costs me about $40 for each pair of shoes...


Edited by blsing - 12/15/11 at 5:48pm
post #777 of 11920

Hello,

Over the past few days I read this whole thread. Great stuff! Thank you all for sharing.

 

I have the following questions. 

 

Many here advocate Renovateur for regular use. My understanding is this product is a cleaner/conditioner, and essentially strips the shoe. Isnt it bad for the leather to treat it this way regularly? With what frequency are folks using this product? 

 

How does your maintenance routine differ for:

After each wearing

Once/week

Once/month

 

Does the AE Cleaner/Conditioner serve the same purpose as Renovateur?

 

It was suggested by the clerk at AE that I not use the Cleaner/Conditioner with my regular routine; he suggested instead their Leather Lotion for regular use. Will the AE Leather Lotion product condition without stripping? If you recommend using Cleaner/Conditioner regularly instead of the lotion, why?

 

For shoes which are fairly new and don't need to be stripped or overhauled, would the following be a reasonable weekly/monthly routine?

1. clean with brush and damp cloth

2. lotion, brush, buff

3. cream polish, brush, buff

4. wax polish on toes and heel, brush, buff, bull

 

It is still not clear to me whether both cream and wax polish are necessary. One provides color, one provides shine. Some use one or the other, some both. 

 

Is brushing and buffing recommended after applying each product? When/why choose one or the other?

 

Thank you very much!

post #778 of 11920
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Originally Posted by shalako View Post

Hello,
Over the past few days I read this whole thread. Great stuff! Thank you all for sharing.

I have the following questions. 

Many here advocate Renovateur for regular use. My understanding is this product is a cleaner/conditioner, and essentially strips the shoe. Isnt it bad for the leather to treat it this way regularly? With what frequency are folks using this product?  You have conflated two products: Renomat is a cleaner/conditioner/polish remover. Renovateur is a conditioner (much like leather lotion.) Yes it would be bad to strip the shoe frequently, this should only be done when wax has built up or the shoe is being refurbished in general.

How does your maintenance routine differ for:
After each wearing Brush Only
Once/weekAssuming you only wear the shoes once a week you should do nothing more than brush.
Once/month Condition/polish (assuming you only wear the shoes once a week)

Does the AE Cleaner/Conditioner serve the same purpose as Renovateur? No, more like Renomat.

It was suggested by the clerk at AE that I not use the Cleaner/Conditioner with my regular routine; he suggested instead their Leather Lotion for regular use. Will the AE Leather Lotion product condition without stripping? Yes. If you recommend using Cleaner/Conditioner regularly instead of the lotion, why? No

For shoes which are fairly new and don't need to be stripped or overhauled, would the following be a reasonable weekly/monthly routine? Yes - this is perfect, once a month should be about right.
1. clean with brush and damp cloth
2. lotion, brush, buff
3. cream polish, brush, buff
4. wax polish on toes and heel, brush, buff, bull

It is still not clear to me whether both cream and wax polish are necessary. One provides color, one provides shine. Some use one or the other, some both. I use creams in the desired colors and wax in only neutral clear. Cream over the entire shoe for a nice soft glow, and wax on toes and heel for shine. This is a matter of personal preference but I find that I rarely get any wax build up this way, as the creme contains only a little wax.

Is brushing and buffing recommended after applying each product?Yes When/why choose one or the other? It becomes a matter of personal preference.

Thank you very much!
post #779 of 11920
Hi Shalako

There are so many possible variations on the same theme. It's really about experiencing everything for yourself: making your own mistakes, judging for yourself how much/little to add, how long to leave to dry, what product goes on nicely etc. What I'm trying to say is, just immerse yourself in getting dirty hands. The fact that you already regularly maintain your shoes, will keep them looking better than 99% on the street. Unless you start applying overly thick coats, leading to heavy buildup and cracking, you're unlikely to completely bugger it up.

After a couple of months, think about fine tuning. Many want to fine tune from the word go. Unless you've served your 'apprenticeship', you'll probably be unsatisfied and even more confused. Once you've figured it out, it'll all be second nature. It'll be your method.

This is honestly the best advice I can give.

Lear
post #780 of 11920
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How would you treat shoes this colour:
http://www.amazon.com/Sebago-Mens-Bowdoin-Slip--Brown/dp/B003I65C42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323971173&sr=8-1
I guess shining them will ruin the "burnished" effect?


I'd just use a conditioner or leather dressing on a rough leather like that. You're right that they're not meant to be shiny. I'm not an expert by any means, but it seems to me it would be difficult if not impossible to polish them to a shine even if you wanted.

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