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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

When someone does spit shine, the wax fills in the pours of the leather, is that bad as it stops the leather from breathing?

A reasonable number of thin coats of wax polish (~10-15) will still allow water vapor to pass, and therefore allow the shoes to breath. As you start to build up a thicker and thicker barrier you begin to suffocate the shoe leather.

Also, keep in mind that the majority of the moisture evaporating through the shoe leather as you wear them is going through the quarters and vamp, where your feet have the most contact with the shoe upper. This is just one reason you should not have a lot of paste/wax polish on the vamp or quarters of your shoes.

The toe puff (on the style of shoe you would spit shine) is also going to impede evaporation through the toe (even more so if it's a plastic toe puff).

Another thing to note is that a fair amount of perspiration remains in the shoe liner and insole and is absorbed into the more porous shoe tree wood, and/or evaporates into open air, when the shoes are taken off and stored.
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Girlfriend has some nude colored Rag & Bone's that have some weird stains on it. I used a slightly damp cloth and finish just seems to come off it with water. Tried conditioning it a little with Reno but it looks just like oil stained on top. I'm pretty sure they are leather just not sure how to clean it if it is possible at all. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The oil on top:

Even though these are probably $200 to $400 women's shoes, and while I believe they are leather, I am pretty sure they are corrected grain. This poses a bit of a problem for you, as I suspect the stain is in the finish.

I am also not sure if this is just an oil stain. Can you find out the source of the stain?

RenoMat (or acetone) may be your only real option here, and it will probably remove the finish. This could damage the shoes depending on the type, quality and depth of correction that was used. Just my opinion of course.

The only other thing I can think of is to use a little pure orange oil on the spot to see if it will pull it out of the finish.
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Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

Even though these are probably $200 to $400 women's shoes, and while I believe they are leather, I am pretty sure they are corrected grain. This poses a bit of a problem for you, as I suspect the stain is in the finish.

I am also not sure if this is just an oil stain. Can you find out the source of the stain?

RenoMat (or acetone) may be your only real option here, and it will probably remove the finish. This could damage the shoes depending on the type, quality and depth of correction that was used. Just my opinion of course.

The only other thing I can think of is to use a little pure orange oil on the spot to see if it will pull it out of the finish.

Thanks for the info and yeah she doesn't know where the stain is from. It's corrected grain as you said which is why I was hesitant to use Renomat on them. I'll try the pure orange oil
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The Munky Inverse Shoe Cost Law: your cheapest shoes will be your most comfortable and your dearest will be your most uncomfortable. Caveat: the law does not apply in all cases.

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Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

When someone does spit shine, the wax fills in the pours of the leather, is that bad as it stops the leather from breathing?

A reasonable number of thin coats of wax polish (~10-15) will still allow water vapor to pass, and therefore allow the shoes to breath. As you start to build up a thicker and thicker barrier you begin to suffocate the shoe leather.

Also, keep in mind that the majority of the moisture evaporating through the shoe leather as you wear them is going through the quarters and vamp, where your feet have the most contact with the shoe upper. This is just one reason you should not have a lot of paste/wax polish on the vamp or quarters of your shoes.

The toe puff (on the style of shoe you would spit shine) is also going to impede evaporation through the toe (even more so if it's a plastic toe puff).

Another thing to note is that a fair amount of perspiration remains in the shoe liner and insole and is absorbed into the more porous shoe tree wood, and/or evaporates into open air, when the shoes are taken off and stored.

cheers for the detailed reply! happy.gif
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Have any of you ever designed your own shoe valet? I am coming up with a concept for one. I realize I have more stuff than I thought and need to organize it better. Now just need to find a good work worker in NY.
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Guys please check these pics. And lmk what do you think , these are shell cordovan , the left shoe started to lose shine and look dull , it started like a spot and then after damp cloth and lots of brushings it looks opaque and with a redish tone , the other shoe is fine and shiny but this one doesn't get any shine! Do you think some Saphir or Venetian will help ? Or is this a finish problem? Shoes are just 3 months old and have been cared , no rain always shoe trees etc.

Started like this.

And now it looks like this

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Originally Posted by epc2 View Post

Guys please check these pics. And lmk what do you think , these are shell cordovan , the left shoe started to lose shine and look dull , it started like a spot and then after damp cloth and lots of brushings it looks opaque and with a redish tone , the other shoe is fine and shiny but this one doesn't get any shine! Do you think some Saphir or Venetian will help ? Or is this a finish problem? Shoes are just 3 months old and have been cared , no rain always shoe trees etc.

Started like this.

And now it looks like this

have you left the shoes in the sun for a long time or they were a floor model? i think some renovateur and a matching cream polish ll fix the discoloration!

btw someone with more experience on shell can give a different approach to the problem!!

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Originally Posted by benhour View Post

have you left the shoes in the sun for a long time or they were a floor model? i think some renovateur and a matching cream polish ll fix the discoloration!
btw someone with more experience on shell can give a different approach to the problem!!

No sun for long time and not a floor model.

Thanks.
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Hi guys, Ive recently bought a pair of cheaneys, i went to the cobblers and bought shoe trees for it. after a week of shoe tree use, the shoes had a 2cm long horizontal stretch mark on the side of one shoe and a few wrinkles. i have sent cheaney an email and they told me to just leave the shoe and hope the marks will fade. it has faded about half way after a week, but i wonder if there was a way to lesson the stretch mark even more? it looks like an out of place crease mark on the side of the shoe. the shoes are completely unworn.

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Has anyone tried Vectra 16 for their suede shoes? Nick at Horween recommended it a while back.

My can of AE spray ran out after treating four pairs of boots. The Nano spray YouTube video was quite impressive but $17 for four boots (about same size as the AE can) seems a bit much especially when it presumably doesn't last that long and has to be re-applied.
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

Has anyone tried Vectra 16 for their suede shoes? Nick at Horween recommended it a while back.

My can of AE spray ran out after treating four pairs of boots. The Nano spray YouTube video was quite impressive but $17 for four boots (about same size as the AE can) seems a bit much especially when it presumably doesn't last that long and has to be re-applied.

I use Tarrago nano spray, and trust me its worth it! I haven't found that i need to reapply it often.

post #6658 of 10715
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

Has anyone tried Vectra 16 for their suede shoes? Nick at Horween recommended it a while back.

My can of AE spray ran out after treating four pairs of boots. The Nano spray YouTube video was quite impressive but $17 for four boots (about same size as the AE can) seems a bit much especially when it presumably doesn't last that long and has to be re-applied.

 

Nothing lasts for ever, and has to be re-applied...; $17 for 4 boots is not outrageous IMHO, given the price of the boots

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Originally Posted by OREO View Post
 

I use Tarrago nano spray, and trust me its worth it! I haven't found that i need to reapply it often.

 

I might just have to try some.  Thanks for the feedback.

 

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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post
 

 

Nothing lasts for ever, and has to be re-applied...; $17 for 4 boots is not outrageous IMHO, given the price of the boots

 

I guess I'm just cheap (penny-wise and pound foolish??).  I just might buy both the AE and Nano and compare them to decide what to use going forward.

post #6660 of 10715
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Originally Posted by a recent grad View Post

Hi guys, Ive recently bought a pair of cheaneys, i went to the cobblers and bought shoe trees for it. after a week of shoe tree use, the shoes had a 2cm long horizontal stretch mark on the side of one shoe and a few wrinkles. i have sent cheaney an email and they told me to just leave the shoe and hope the marks will fade. it has faded about half way after a week, but i wonder if there was a way to lesson the stretch mark even more? it looks like an out of place crease mark on the side of the shoe. the shoes are completely unworn.

Once it's stretched, very hard to go back, use a bit of cream and wax to hide it. How did you buy a wrong sized shoe tree from a cobbler?
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