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I thought I saw it there when I was in last month but I could be mistaken....
 

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Well, shoe care is for the prevention of serious cracking and damage.

It's like there is no point in taking the vaccination after you got the flu. smile.gif

But it's not the polish that stops the cracking, it's the conditioner.

Wax polish will create something of a protective barrier.
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Given that Church's use corrected grain (and, presumably by extension, other high grade  makers) are there particular advantages to buying corrected grain shoes (apart from cost)?  Are there situations in which you would go out looking for cg shoes?

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Does anyone have any other suggestions for making my Loake 1880 Chester brogues, F fitting, wearable?  I have tried an insole (toes pressed too hard against the toe box), tongue pads (seemingly very rare, here in the UK and didn't seem to do very much) and my best compromise, arch supports. I think the problem probably lies in the width of these shoes. Is there anything I can do to make them feel more 'narrow'? Sorry to nag about this but these shoes are the best I can afford. 

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Given that Church's use corrected grain (and, presumably by extension, other high grade  makers) are there particular advantages to buying corrected grain shoes (apart from cost)?  Are there situations in which you would go out looking for cg shoes?

There are two advantages to corrected grain: 1) The amount of pigment used in the CG finish allows for a richer color that is resistant to fading. 2) The thicker finish holds up to weather better without any additional care.
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You always give great advice, benhour. 

I put shoe trees in them right after I took the pictures, just wanted to give an understanding of what they looked like smile.gif



Now it's off to find some Dubbin. Does anyone know where I can pick some up in Toronto?

LeatherFoot might sell some. I know they sell Carmina.
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If the shoes in question are truly Boned Calf (which I believe they are), then they are not corrected grain leather.

Boned calf is basically highly polished wax calf. Wax calf, like cordovan shell, uses the flesh side of the leather as the exposed side of the upper (grain side inside). The flesh is shaved, infused with wax, and buffed very precisely to create a smooth and bright finish. Wax calf is commonly used in dress riding boots for equine related events like Dressage (where it would be insensitive to use cordovan shell ).

The reason the leather has a rolling effect like cordovan shell, and also creases like calf, is due to how it was made, and what it is made of.

If the shoes were corrected grain bookbinder leather you would not get the rolling effect in the leather as shown.

Good info. Thanks for posting.

The shoes I posted don't look 100 percent uniform, like cheap cg shoes that have has in the past. I'll try to post a closeup later when I have access to my Dslr.

If they are actual boned calf, and not cg faux boned calf, do you know how to care for them? I'm thinking of contacting bb to get care instructions and to confirm the leather used. I actually already submitted this as a question on the bb site after the previous replies.
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

Given that Church's use corrected grain (and, presumably by extension, other high grade  makers) are there particular advantages to buying corrected grain shoes (apart from cost)?  Are there situations in which you would go out looking for cg shoes?

High lasting shine, easy to maintain.
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LeatherFoot might sell some. I know they sell Carmina.

 

They are currently out. They'll be receiving some in about a week, in case anyone else needs some!

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Originally Posted by Munky View Post

Does anyone have any other suggestions for making my Loake 1880 Chester brogues, F fitting, wearable?  I have tried an insole (toes pressed too hard against the toe box), tongue pads (seemingly very rare, here in the UK and didn't seem to do very much) and my best compromise, arch supports. I think the problem probably lies in the width of these shoes. Is there anything I can do to make them feel more 'narrow'? Sorry to nag about this but these shoes are the best I can afford. 

Sorry mate, you can't make just width smaller, the insoles, arch support and toe pads all take your feet push closer to the upper of the shoe, and push them back towards the heel as well, so they should feel smaller all around include narrower.

Have you tried a thinner insoles, if having a pair of insoles solves your other issues, get a cobbler to stretch the toe box with insoles in them.
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All the posts about boned calf, cg, etc. was quite informative, especially the Japanese site where they were showing presumable tell-tale signs of inferior leather.  But I'm now wondering about the "washed" and distressed leathers of which many of the Italian boots are made (and not inexpensive boots either, some of them over $1k).  Many of them seem to show signs of the veins are creases that are supposed to be avoided.  So are these inferior leathers?  For example, this Italian boot...

 

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Originally Posted by NeedStyleHelp View Post

 

You always give great advice, benhour. 

 

I put shoe trees in them right after I took the pictures, just wanted to give an understanding of what they looked like smile.gif


Now it's off to find some Dubbin. Does anyone know where I can pick some up in Toronto?

thank you for your kind words!!shog[1].gif

 

always remember with dubbin less is more!! dont over do it cause it ll need more than 2 days to get absorbed by the leather so you can shine and polish your shoes!!

post #6103 of 12435
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Good info. Thanks for posting.

The shoes I posted don't look 100 percent uniform, like cheap cg shoes that have has in the past. I'll try to post a closeup later when I have access to my Dslr.

If they are actual boned calf, and not cg faux boned calf, do you know how to care for them? I'm thinking of contacting bb to get care instructions and to confirm the leather used. I actually already submitted this as a question on the bb site after the previous replies.

The discount on the shoes may have been related to them not being 100 percent uniform, but still not necessarily CG. It will be interesting to hear what BB tells you about the shoes.

The term boned calf comes from the concept of using a deer bone to smooth the wax leather calfskin flesh and produce a high shine. Similar to what is done with shell cordovan. In fact I would treat these shoes (if not CG) just like shell cordovan. Rub with a deer bone (or similar smooth object) and use minimal care products. You could also follow the Mac Method created by a member of this forum, and used by others on shell.
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

All the posts about boned calf, cg, etc. was quite informative, especially the Japanese site where they were showing presumable tell-tale signs of inferior leather.  But I'm now wondering about the "washed" and distressed leathers of which many of the Italian boots are made (and not inexpensive boots either, some of them over $1k).  Many of them seem to show signs of the veins are creases that are supposed to be avoided.  So are these inferior leathers?  For example, this Italian boot...

 

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The forte of these designer boots are the distressed process, not the quality of the material, shape of the last, details of the pattern, or the sturdiness of construction.  And they need to command a high listing price to sustain their brand's accessibility image.  Pretty sure you could find a similar used/thrown away pair at a Goodwill store.

 

p.s., yes, inferior leather.

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

The forte of these designer boots are the distressed process, not the quality of the material, shape of the last, details of the pattern, or the sturdiness of construction.  And they need to command a high listing price to sustain their brand's accessibility image.  Pretty sure you could find a similar used/thrown away pair at a Goodwill store.

p.s., yes, inferior leather.

Yeah I've gotten most of sw&d high end shoes only to think to myself if people seriously paid retail or anywhere close to them. Shape and brand may be appealing can't think of much more. A few leathers were interesting but nothing special
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