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Originally Posted by Beach Bum View Post

While the idea of shipping shoes to get shined seems ridiculous on the cover, I quickly forget that many of the owners of numerous high end shoes are CEOs, other executives, etc...

Many of which are worth way more than the populous and most definitely most of SF. If they want their shoes polished with the best possible quality and service why not ship to a Pro with no regard for cost. But then I'm sure many have in house butlers that can duly serve as shoe shiners as needed.

One day I'll be shipping my shoes for shining!

Let me introduce you the concept of a domestic staff. So tell me again why are people having a domestic staff or a personal valet mail their shoes for a shine?
post #5282 of 12490
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Let me introduce you the concept of a domestic staff. So tell me again why are people having a domestic staff or a personal valet mail their shoes for a shine?
look, for the most part high wealthy individuals are the ones if any shipping their shoes for shine. I never even thought is existed until seeing the post yesterday.

And your ridiculous post, it's such a grey area, or hypothetical statement. So if you are sure rich and have "domestic staff" that this means you have all the so called best of class for any given service at home? Fuc& no. If you have a shoe guy in NYC and your job moves you away you don't think someone may still want to use that guy.

Crazy talk by the uppity dude.
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Don't go to Nordstrom, they don't know what the eff they're doing, especially with shell-


This is scary.
post #5284 of 12490
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Originally Posted by Beach Bum View Post


look, for the most part high wealthy individuals are the ones if any shipping their shoes for shine. I never even thought is existed until seeing the post yesterday.

And your ridiculous post, it's such a grey area, or hypothetical statement. So if you are sure rich and have "domestic staff" that this means you have all the so called best of class for any given service at home? Fuc& no. If you have a shoe guy in NYC and your job moves you away you don't think someone may still want to use that guy.

Crazy talk by the uppity dude.

Yes, we do have some uppity wannabes, and their character is measured by how easily they get upset over someone else's choice to pay for any service rendered.

 

We have many classes within the USA, not just two or three.  Folks don't need to have exceptional wealth to afford domestic staff.  They just need to be able to afford it.  My father, before retiring as a very high US Air Force officer, made sure my mother, brother, and I were looked after while he was at war.  If there was a domestic specialty that needed attending to, and the staff was not qualified to perform the needed task - then it was outsourced to a professional.  This was before UPS and a global economy.

 

Anyone owning dozens of high quality shoes and earning more income per hour which exceeds $3, $7, $10, or even $25, plus insured trackable carrier fees -  who desires to maintain their best look - may choose to have an outside source keep their shoes in excellent condition.  Those who complain about it, whine, grind their teeth, spit, sputter, and use their privilege of commentary - only reveal themselves to be of a class not worth mentorship - unless they are opting for the talk-radio character.

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I was at the Venetian in Vegas a couple of months ago and noticed that the shoe shine stands all offer a service for sneakers. What's a shoe shine stand going to do with a pair of sneakers?

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Earn money.
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Originally Posted by cbfn View Post

Earn money.

hahahaha totally agree with that!!!

post #5288 of 12490
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

I was at the Venetian in Vegas a couple of months ago and noticed that the shoe shine stands all offer a service for sneakers. What's a shoe shine stand going to do with a pair of sneakers?

Canvas cleaning, restoration, and water-proofing - not to mention some have leather trims.

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The reality is a good shop does not want to have to pay their talented employees to unpack, shine, re-pack a pair (or 10 pair) of shoes for a shine. Then add shipping time and costs. It's just not practical. These days a good craftsman is expensive. When you have several of them it adds up quickly. Good shops stay busy almost all year. Using your skilled people to do routine maintenance is a waste of time.

A good operator would rather give tips and advice to the DIYer on regular maintenance. This way you help the customer while saving yourself time for your talented staff to work on jobs that require the best of their skills. I've had customers (butlers) come in and say “I have a lot of business for you today”. They take out 8,10,12 pair of shoes for a shine. This is not business for a busy shop. It's a waste of time and talent and sets you off schedule for others that you have obligations to. All it really is, is an accommodation to the customer.
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Wouldnt want them low class uppity wannabes usin that there privilage of commentary
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Gents:

I bought these Santonis secondhand today. They're generally in good repair except for the scuffs/gouge to the left toe. Is this repairable in a way that they will ever look decent? I have a few days left to return them, if necessary.

Keep in mind, I do like my shoes to look nice, but I'm not a stickler for a high spit shine, which I realize these shoes will never fully take given that gouge.

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post #5292 of 12490
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Originally Posted by Nick V. View Post

The reality is a good shop does not want to have to pay their talented employees to unpack, shine, re-pack a pair (or 10 pair) of shoes for a shine. Then add shipping time and costs. It's just not practical. These days a good craftsman is expensive. When you have several of them it adds up quickly. Good shops stay busy almost all year. Using your skilled people to do routine maintenance is a waste of time.

A good operator would rather give tips and advice to the DIYer on regular maintenance. This way you help the customer while saving yourself time for your talented staff to work on jobs that require the best of their skills. I've had customers (butlers) come in and say “I have a lot of business for you today”. They take out 8,10,12 pair of shoes for a shine. This is not business for a busy shop. It's a waste of time and talent and sets you off schedule for others that you have obligations to. All it really is, is an accommodation to the customer.
Interesting,so shoe shiners are the only employers I know where they prefer less business and less business is better. Must be nice.
post #5293 of 12490
maybe this question would be better served in the quick question forum but I'll start here to get the best advice. I have a pair of Chaps(I know not SF approved) tassel loafers that today I noticed are looking slightly worse for wear. what would you recommend to fix these up? and I would prefer to have a recommendation of kiwi polish over saphir but if saphir is what they need then I guess they will get saphir.
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Originally Posted by Beach Bum View Post

Interesting,so shoe shiners are the only employers I know where they prefer less business and less business is better. Must be nice.
This gentlemans company is in the business of re- crafting shoes his post is in re sponse to another forum members statement that people mailed their shoes to him to be shined . If I am mistaken I stand corrected
post #5295 of 12490
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Originally Posted by GMMcL View Post

Gents:

I bought these Santonis secondhand today. They're generally in good repair except for the scuffs/gouge to the left toe. Is this repairable in a way that they will ever look decent? I have a few days left to return them, if necessary.

Keep in mind, I do like my shoes to look nice, but I'm not a stickler for a high spit shine, which I realize these shoes will never fully take given that gouge. Shoe Images (Click to show)
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If all you are concerned with is the overall cosmetics of the shoe, and you don't need a high shine, then yes they can be made to look decent.

1) I would put a coat of leather conditioner on both shoes (you want to keep both shoes looking the same, as best you can) then shortly after applying the conditioner take a tablespoon (because it has a broader curvature than a teaspoon) and try to rub each of the scratches, scuffs, and nicks down as smooth as you can. Let the conditioner dry overnight.

2) Get a cream shoe polish a couple shades darker that the shoe color (perhaps even a dark brown), and put a couple of coats on each shoe. When brushing the shoe polish in (at the damaged areas), remember to brush the same direction you used with the spoon to press down each scratch, scuff, and nick. Brush the rest of each shoe as you typically would. The shoe cream is used to darken the color of the shoes somewhat and hide the damage. If you don't want to darken the whole shoe then only apply the darker polish to each toe.

3) Apply a few coats (as many as needed) of dark brown, or even black, paste polish to the toes; using the wax as a sort of filler in the areas of the damage. The black polish will not turn the toe black, but it will darken it even further (and add to the existing patina). Brush the shoes gently for and even glow, and they should look great.

Aside from the cosmetics, the leather on the toe looks very dried out, to the point of irreparable damage. But that should not effect the look of the shoe from a casual observer. I suspect however, that in the not too distant future (six months to a year or so) the leather on the toe of the shoe will begin to crack.
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