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post #5146 of 10217
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Originally Posted by Beach Bum View Post

I need some SF expert advice.  I just bought these Santonis new-in-box on Ebay and have the following issue.  I'll note that the shoe was purchased off a credible ebay "shoe store" and was not on an auction.  The price was about 55% off retail.

To start, both shoes have a looser upper around where the top of shoe meets the ankle than an identical Santoni pair I already own in Black. I bought these since I like that other shoe so much.  The main issue is the left shoe and the slight wrinkle or bow in this area. 

I read up on this and understand it can occur from improper storage or can even be a manufacturer defect, I'm nearly certain it's the former.  Here's why, I put shoe trees in them for the past 3 days since receipt and I feel like the shoes are already "tighter" in the areas mentioned above.  The one shoe with the noticeable wrinkle is still present which annoys me.  However, when wearing as shown in one of the pics I can't feel it and it's hardly noticeable.

So what do you guys think?  Return because this is a material defect or issue?  Or will the shoe mold back to shape in that aread after a few shines, wear, and continued shoe tree storage?  Or even if it won't reform to original shape maybe it's a Non-Issue as it is nearly unnoticeable when wearing? 

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the advice.  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)








This is probably why they were 55% off. Probably factory seconds. For what it is worth, they look soft and comfy. If it doesn't affect your gait I wouldn't let it bother you. I would wear them without issues.
post #5147 of 10217
I think SF needs a wiki where members can create and update entries regarding different shoe care methods. Installing mediawiki is relatively trivial. Do you think the site admin would be up for it?
post #5148 of 10217
Well, as you can see it is a constant debate, and trial and error. It would get updated by the minute with everybody's opinions. Like others have said, it isn't a science so nothing is really "fact" which is what a wiki is best suited for.
post #5149 of 10217

Thanks for the input DC & PB.  I am leaning to keeping.

post #5150 of 10217
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Originally Posted by gsgleason View Post

I think SF needs a wiki where members can create and update entries regarding different shoe care methods. Installing mediawiki is relatively trivial. Do you think the site admin would be up for it?
Im not an IT guy at all but some sort of forum specific search function would be nice . I never even looked at a computer till google came out now I practically live on the cursed thing .Wait! meybe thats not such a good idea after all
post #5151 of 10217
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Originally Posted by gsgleason View Post

I think SF needs a wiki where members can create and update entries regarding different shoe care methods. Installing mediawiki is relatively trivial. Do you think the site admin would be up for it?

 

Won't work.  We have too much noise than signal, too much venders and fans of venders than actual enthusiasts.

 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Well, as you can see it is a constant debate, and trial and error. It would get updated by the minute with everybody's opinions. Like others have said, it isn't a science so nothing is really "fact" which is what a wiki is best suited for.

 

There are many ways to skin a cat.  But unfortunately sometimes certain factions are stating their methodology as the one and only fact.

post #5152 of 10217
There are many ways to skin a cat.  But unfortunately sometimes certain factions are stating their methodology as the one and only fact.
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Could not agree more . Again the inability to engage in critical thinking rears its ugly little head. Loss of emphasis on liberal arts and an over abundance of unqualified information .Where is my soap box ! Dont get me started here!
post #5153 of 10217
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

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Originally Posted by gsgleason View Post

I think SF needs a wiki where members can create and update entries regarding different shoe care methods. Installing mediawiki is relatively trivial. Do you think the site admin would be up for it?
Im not an IT guy at all but some sort of forum specific search function would be nice . I never even looked at a computer till google came out now I practically live on the cursed thing .Wait! meybe thats not such a good idea after all

Google is your friend. Add this to your query:
Code:
site:www.styleforum.net/t/228153/the-official-shoe-care-thread-tutorials-photos-etc

Example:
https://www.google.com/search?q=shell+scuff+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.styleforum.net%2Ft%2F228153%2Fthe-official-shoe-care-thread-tutorials-photos-etc

Also, there is the 'search this thread' option at the top and bottom of each forum page.
post #5154 of 10217
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

If this bugs you and they are factory firsts then you shouldnt have a prob based on the toe damage .If not honestly there is nothing here that you will even notice a month from now . One of the great things about shell is how the sort of stuff just buffs out and disappears after a while. The discoloration is pretty common on cordovan

So the way the dye is on the heel, where you see two separate shades, and blotch.. will the leather always be like that till I have the leather refinished later down the line?
post #5155 of 10217
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Originally Posted by Hermitedge View Post

So the way the dye is on the heel, where you see two separate shades, and blotch.. will the leather always be like that till I have the leather refinished later down the line?
Ihave theory and it is a theory only tha blemishes in the unfinished shell cause it to absorb dye in greater concentrations than the surrounding area this is what you are seeing . It is fact that Alden and most shoemakers for that matter finish the leather with a tint bearing coating . This coating further conceals the blemish . The fact that this coating is not opaque but rather translucent explains why the blemish is more highly visible in certain lights and from certain angles. Rare shades such as whisky , ravello # 4 etc are less tint bearing thus requiring a clear shell . This is only my own deduction based on my own observations .If someone else were able to present a more fact based explanation im sure it would highly welcomed..
Sorry I got carried away but to answer your question Yes it appears to be a blemish very common in shell that cannot be removed only coverd up but you must realize that probably a very high percentage if not all black and color #8 have these blemishes otherwise rare shades would not be rare
post #5156 of 10217

Out of university and looking to land a job very soon. I've been scouring Ebay looking for shoes in really bad shape so that I may buy and reno them completely. I know that Allen Edmonds and Alden both have a recrafting program whereby ~$150 will essentially get you a brand new shoe. You all know this, obviously.

 

How about C&J? John Lobb? Ferragamo?

 

What other companies offer this kind of service?

 

btw, this thread has been an invaluable resource for me. Just incredible.

post #5157 of 10217
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Originally Posted by JesseLivermore View Post

Out of university and looking to land a job very soon. I've been scouring Ebay looking for shoes in really bad shape so that I may buy and reno them completely. I know that Allen Edmonds and Alden both have a recrafting program whereby ~$150 will essentially get you a brand new shoe. You all know this, obviously.

How about C&J? John Lobb? Ferragamo?

What other companies offer this kind of service?

btw, this thread has been an invaluable resource for me. Just incredible.

Completely not worth it. Totally uneconomical. Try thrift stores or consignment.
post #5158 of 10217
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Completely not worth it. Totally uneconomical. Try thrift stores or consignment.


+1 also $150 in repairs will never get you a "brand new pair of shoes" . But it will get a pair of NIB AEs.
post #5159 of 10217
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Completely not worth it. Totally uneconomical. Try thrift stores or consignment.

Agreed and Allen Edmonds seconds are $120-150 anyways plus meermin is ~$200
post #5160 of 10217
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Completely not worth it. Totally uneconomical. Try thrift stores or consignment.

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Originally Posted by mr monty View Post

+1 also $150 in repairs will never get you a "brand new pair of shoes" . But it will get a pair of NIB AEs.

Also to be noted that if the shoes have been recrafted before by anyone else the factory recraft service won't touch them
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