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post #4516 of 12356
I think cirage is just the waxing in itself, whereas glaçage is the name of a mirror shine. You need to cirage to accomplish a glaçage?
post #4517 of 12356
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Originally Posted by cbfn View Post

I think cirage is just the waxing in itself, whereas glaçage is the name of a mirror shine. You need to cirage to accomplish a glaçage?

That would actually make a lot of sense in the context that I've seen the words used.  Thanks for the help, that cleared a lot of confusion.

post #4518 of 12356

Does anyone use leather conditioner on the inside of the shoes? Especially under the vamp, where the majority of the creases are.

post #4519 of 12356
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Originally Posted by archangle13 View Post

Does anyone use leather conditioner on the inside of the shoes? Especially under the vamp, where the majority of the creases are.

No coz I'm not mad! bounce2.gif

post #4520 of 12356
@ OzzyJones

Your taking part in this thread says it all biggrin.gif

@ JimC

I mentioned this spotty matter some while back in the big RM thread. Have a pair of claret coloured craftsman boots in yearling. They've been covered in Reno + burgundy soft + hard Saphir. All is fine until there's a slight drizzle, whereupon the pink spots appear. Even minuscule drops of water from hand washing will cause the same. No such problem on other RM boots. This is not simply the concern of an obsessive, but very noticeable to all. The spots only seem to disappear with a light coating of Reno.

RM boots are great. I'm not suggesting it's the boot at fault. In fact, I don't know what I'm suggesting; just my own experience with Saphir on claret yearling. Maybe a smarter person like Crat could explain. I know he spends many a night over an open cauldron, brewing up waxy potions.

Could it be sprinkles of water from your hand washing? It can take a few minutes after wetting for the spots to show.

Lear
post #4521 of 12356
Or he's gone to the gents in a bar and its not his aim that's bad.
Lear, there's shoe care mad and renoing the INSIDE of your shoe mad.
A subtle but distinct difference I believe
post #4522 of 12356
You have a point there OzzyJones. But I bet you the Japanese do this smile.gif
post #4523 of 12356
Those are indeed fantastic, Lear.

I made a compilation of shiny shoes I'd come across on the web a year or two ago; these from the hanger project outshine them all.
post #4524 of 12356
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Originally Posted by JimC View Post

Hello gents,

Can anyone tell me what I might have done to cause the spots on my RM Williams?

The boots are about ten years old and have until recently been exposed to nothing more than RM Williams leather conditioner and RM Williams chestnut polish.  Apart from getting darker I've never had any problems.

I recently applied some Renovateur (after having had great success with both that and some cream polish on my black RMs) and I then applied brown Church's wax.

This is when the trouble started.  No matter what I do now I can't seem to avoid getting these spots.  I live in a very dry climate so it's not from rain, or salt for that matter.  And I'm pretty sure it's not from my poor aim either.

I have ordered some Renomat and some brown (in a suitable shade) cream and intend starting over, but can any of you give me a clue as to why this might have happened?

Cheers,

James

They look like water spots to me that have just caused the wax to separate from the leather. I'd use some Leather Cleaning Soap and just repolish. Should fix this problem.

Cheers,
Kirby

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post #4525 of 12356
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Originally Posted by archangle13 View Post

Does anyone use leather conditioner on the inside of the shoes? Especially under the vamp, where the majority of the creases are.

PatrickBOOTH wrote about doing this earlier in the thread IIRC.
post #4526 of 12356

Thanks gents for your suggestions.

 

I suspect you're all right and that it is from water spots.  And OzzyJones, I'm pretty sure that if it was poor aim-related that I can't point the blame at anyone else...  Murphy's law dictates that I only ever seem to be subjected to that when I'm not wearing enclosed footwear.

 

The fact that it could happen so quickly and so easily from what are probably small droplets after washing my hands is amazing.  As I said I have had these things for years and have never seen anything like this before.  I have been in downpours before and when using RM Williams' products I have been fine.  It wasn't until I got fancy with some French conditioner and some English wax (which I think is the likely culprit) that all the trouble started.  I don't understand what the difference would be.  I'm going to strip them back soon anyway and will start over with Saphir creme (as it's been so good on my black boots) and from now on I intend avoiding wax on all but the toecap.

 

Cheers,

 

James

post #4527 of 12356
Some questions veering into cobbler territory:

1.) When it comes to dressing the sole edges, what exactly does the professional cobbler do that we can't, due to lack of equipment or access to pro supplies?

2.) Specifically, what's that very solid looking block of hard wax (is it indeed wax?) they use on the edges, and can it only be applied with a large rotary buffing machine?

3.) How much is a large rotary buffing machine?.. only kidding

Cheers

@Crat: nice parade of polished shoes there. Also, just seen your link to spit shine video. Will give a look later.
post #4528 of 12356

Hi Guys,

 

Quick question:

Do you usually launder your polishing cloths?

If so, is there a specific type of laundry detergent used to remove shoe polish?

Or do you just buy new ones?

 

Thank you.

post #4529 of 12356
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Originally Posted by Lear View Post

Some questions veering into cobbler territory:

1.) When it comes to dressing the sole edges, what exactly does the professional cobbler do that we can't, due to lack of equipment or access to pro supplies?

2.) Specifically, what's that very solid looking block of hard wax (is it indeed wax?) they use on the edges, and can it only be applied with a large rotary buffing machine?

3.) How much is a large rotary buffing machine?.. only kidding

Cheers

@Crat: nice parade of polished shoes there. Also, just seen your link to spit shine video. Will give a look later.

 

3. I am convinced you could repurpose a bench/pedestal grinder for this. You'd just have to find an appropriate wheel.

post #4530 of 12356
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3. I am convinced you could repurpose a bench/pedestal grinder for this. You'd just have to find an appropriate wheel.

And I'd love to do that. Problem being the people in the flat (apartment) below. As it is, you can already discern the shadowy outline of a man seated by window; wrist moving furiously back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. After a few minutes of this repetitive motion, I tend to let out a whoop of immense satisfaction as the shine intensifies. I've invited them round for tea, but they never respond. A bench/pedestal grinder probably ain't going to improve matters.

Lear
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