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post #4441 of 10402
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

Crat beat me to it. Shell *can* be mirror shined but I think some/many will agree that it doesn't suit shell like it does calf. 

As mentioned previously, I kept this shine for about as long as it took to snap these pictures. I much prefer the look of shell's deep sheen, not a highly waxed finish.

Both beat me to it. Was going to reference you and your last work on shell.
post #4442 of 10402
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

Exactly. Shell should shine, but not like a mirror.
Probably has something to do with the generally more casual nature of shell shoes.

 

Interesting. I assumed that shell shoes were usually of higher quality and thus suited to formal wear as much as, if not more, than calf. I understand the sentiment about not wanting to hide the patina of shell, but since my loafers are already black, is there really any patina or depth to be had?

post #4443 of 10402
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Interesting. I assumed that shell shoes were usually of higher quality and thus suited to formal wear as much as, if not more, than calf. I understand the sentiment about not wanting to hide the patina of shell, but since my loafers are already black, is there really any patina or depth to be had?
Patina and black = no.
I really like black shoes. When others wear them. Look much better than brown under a suit usually. But I just cant bring myself to buy them an the colour is just, well, plain black..
I do think black shell can have a nice 'depth' though. Give them a good polishing but don't overdo it is my advice.

Shell is thicker than calf and more 'robust'. Therefore, imo, its more suited for (semi) casual boots than for elegant dress shoes.
Edited by Crat - 4/2/13 at 2:45pm
post #4444 of 10402
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

Crat beat me to it. Shell *can* be mirror shined but I think some/many will agree that it doesn't suit shell like it does calf. 

 

As mentioned previously, I kept this shine for about as long as it took to snap these pictures. I much prefer the look of shell's natural deep sheen, not a highly waxed finish.

 

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Awesome shine but I don't have the patience to do any of that shine on shell, especially when they gets dull/collects dust within 5 mins of wear...

 

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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

 

Interesting. I assumed that shell shoes were usually of higher quality and thus suited to formal wear as much as, if not more, than calf. I understand the sentiment about not wanting to hide the patina of shell, but since my loafers are already black, is there really any patina or depth to be had?

 

Shell is not formal.

post #4445 of 10402
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

 

Awesome shine but I don't have the patience to do any of that shine on shell, especially when they gets dull/collects dust within 5 mins of wear...

 

 

 

Just because you don't have the patience doesn't mean it can't be done.

 

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It is possible, but why?

Shell can be shined but not spit shine like calf leather.
post #4446 of 10402

I've read many warnings against using products containing turpentine on shell, yet many people swear by using Reno on their cordovan. A smaller percentage say they use wax polish. Has anyone ever done damage to their shell with Reno or wax polish?

 

Polishing my shells with Reno and wax polish is a relaxing hobby for me but after reading that I should use both sparingly and that the turpentine in both products is bad for the leather I'm getting a bit nervous. I understand Saphir makes cordovan cream polish but I'm referring specifically to Reno and wax polish.

 

Anyone have thoughts on this?

post #4447 of 10402
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Originally Posted by Hill View Post

I've read many warnings against using products containing turpentine on shell, yet many people swear by using Reno on their cordovan. A smaller percentage say they use wax polish. Has anyone ever done damage to their shell with Reno or wax polish?

Polishing my shells with Reno and wax polish is a relaxing hobby for me but after reading that I should use both sparingly and that the turpentine in both products is bad for the leather I'm getting a bit nervous. I understand Saphir makes cordovan cream polish but I'm referring specifically to Reno and wax polish.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

You will be fine... Nick from Horween recommends Venetian cream for Cordovan which has turpentine...
post #4448 of 10402
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post


You will be fine... Nick from Horween recommends Venetian cream for Cordovan which has turpentine...

 

Thank you.

post #4449 of 10402
Shell is not of higher quality than calf, it's just a different leather.
post #4450 of 10402
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

Shell is not of higher quality than calf, it's just a different leather.

 

In fairness, that depends on your definition of quality.  A definition has to be presented before one can be picked.

 

If quality is equitable to durability and longevity, shell is much higher quality than calf. 

 

If quality speaks towards presentation or appearance, they can just be called different leathers for different purposes. 

 

If quality speaks towards rarity, shell wins again. 

 

If quality speaks towards difficulty and level of hand-work in manufactering, I think shell wins again. 

 

If quality is regarding the formality (higher quality?) of clothing that it can be worn with, it seems that calf wins. 

 

Some consider ease of maintentance to be reflective of higher quality.  Many say that they find shell to be higher maintenance that calf, but those who subscribe to the Mac Method probably say that it is much easier to maintain than calf. 

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Will shoes darkened with dark shoe cream fade back to its original colour over time? Will constant brushing hasten the fading back to its original colour?

post #4452 of 10402

What is it about shell that makes it less formal than calf? Is it because it is stiffer?

post #4453 of 10402
I don't find shell to be generally less formal than calf. Assuming parity in design and execution, shell will be every bit as formal as a calf equivalent.

If by formal one is referring to black tie, perhaps, but not in the greater spectrum of dress footwear.
post #4454 of 10402
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

What is it about shell that makes it less formal than calf? Is it because it is stiffer?

 

Here are a few links on the formality of shell vs. calf:

http://putthison.com/post/28843198980/the-navy-sport-coat-of-shoes-in-my-opinion

http://oldleathershoe.com/wordpress/?p=304&doing_wp_cron=1357766101.9037210941314697265625

http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/106lx6/renalans_visual_guide_to_dress_shoes/

 

Shell is generally regarded as less appropriate for the type of shine that looks good on calf, as well as giving the appearance of being heavier and more rugged.

post #4455 of 10402
I will check out those links when I am off my tablet, but I'll just say that I have seen a great many shell shoes that look entirely appropriate with a suit, and never once thought the material alone would render them less appropriate than calf.

Design has vastly more to do with the level of formality than material - at least, as between shell and calf.
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