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post #4081 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

Thanks dddrees

Yes they are Galways and I intend to use dark brown polish. In my experience wax(?, the stuff you usually find in the tins) doens't add too much colour too quickly. I often use a polish in a slightly darker shade than the shoe.

Interesting, but this approach makes sense.

 

So to recover from the snow, did you just use Saphir Reno, or a bit of cream or wax?

 

I've been looking at a pair of Galways for a number of months now.

 

I asked, because I just ordered a pair.

 

 

I think your post pushed me over the edge.icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

post #4082 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

Also, I'm experimenting with crease removal through steam. Anyone done this yet?
I read about it somewhere and though I havent tested it extensively yet the results so far look promising.
You should have seen my housemates' faces though when two of them walked in to find me vigorously rubbing a shoe with a spoon under the full blast of my espresso machine's steam wand. laugh.gif

Will get back to you on this soon.






 

uhoh.gif  This sounds scary to me.  Steam from an espresso machine is scalding hot (likely hot enough to kill bacteria).  It sure seems to me that this would be damaging to the leather fibers. 

post #4083 of 10720
dddrees, Galways are great. I love them and this is my second pair. They are wearable with nearly everything between shorts and formal business suits.You wont regret it. Which last/colour did you order?

For the recovery I tries reno first, then coloured reno, then cream and then wax. None worked to my satisfaction so i ended up using teinture francaise which I massaged into the leather sparingly. As it turned out this was not the right order in which to use these products but I tried to use the least radical method first.


Moneywellspent, It does sound scary which is why i tried it on these old Santonis which I have written off ages ago. Some shoemakers do use steam to mold their leathers though.
An other method seemed to work better btw; one which will probably appall you even more. shog[1].gif
More to come.
Edited by Crat - 2/27/13 at 1:49pm
post #4084 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

dddrees, Galways are great. I love them and this is my second pair. They are wearable with nearly everything between shorts and formal business suits.You wont regret it. Which last/colour did you order?

For the recovery I tries reno first, then coloured reno, then cream and then wax. None worked to my satisfaction so i ended up using teinture francaise which I massaged into the leather sparingly. As it turned out this was not the right order in which to use these products but I tried to use the least radical method first.


Moneywellspent, It does sound scary which is why i tried it on these old Santonis which I have written off ages ago. Some shoemakers do use steam to mold their leathers though.
An other method seemed to work better though; one which will probably appall you even more. shog[1].gif
More to come.

I ordered the dark oak in the 82 Last TTS.

 

 

I've got my fingers crossed that this Last and size will fit me.

 

It'll be my first pair of Edward Greens.

 

Never heard of teinture francase, but I'm certainly glad you were able to fix the issue.

post #4085 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

dddrees, Galways are great. I love them and this is my second pair. They are wearable with nearly everything between shorts and formal business suits.You wont regret it. Which last/colour did you order?

For the recovery I tries reno first, then coloured reno, then cream and then wax. None worked to my satisfaction so i ended up using teinture francaise which I massaged into the leather sparingly. As it turned out this was not the right order in which to use these products but I tried to use the least radical method first.


Moneywellspent, It does sound scary which is why i tried it on these old Santonis which I have written off ages ago. Some shoemakers do use steam to mold their leathers though.
An other method seemed to work better though; one which will probably appall you even more. shog[1].gif
More to come.

 

That's a good point, many do use steam to soften the leather in preparation for lasting.  When I first saw your post, I mulled it over for a minute before commenting.  I don't know the source for which you found the idea to use steam, but I just wonder if it would be safer to use steam that isn't scalding hot (assuming you were holding the shoes quite close to the nozzle on the the espresso maker).  Glad they are shoes that you have already written off, just in case!  I'll be eager to hear about the other method you are hinting at as well. biggrin.gif

post #4086 of 10720
dddrees
Full dark oak? That will look just great nod[1].gif

Teinture francaice is saphir's leather dye which is used to actually colour shoes. Massaging it into the shoe's leather with your fingers is a method I was taught by Corthay's Stephane. Its much easier to get the dose right this way than when using a brush.
The product is a bit too radical for most people.


MoneyWellSpent
Thats exactly where I held the shoe shog[1].gif
Not much happened though.

The other method involved a spoon and a blow torch. Then it involved a red spoon and shoe with a wet damp cloth wrapped around it.
(I exaggerate laugh.gif the spoon wasn't quite red hot.)
Edited by Crat - 2/27/13 at 1:50pm
post #4087 of 10720
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MoneyWellSpent

The other method involved a spoon and a blow torch. Then it involved a red spoon and shoe with a wet cloth wrapped around it.
(I exaggerate laugh.gif the spoon wasn't quite red hot.)

 

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post #4088 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

dddrees
Full dark oak? That will look just great nod[1].gif

Teinture francaice is saphir's leather dye which is used to actually colour shoes. Massaging it into the shoe's leather with your fingers is a method I was taught by Corthay's Stephane. Its much easier to get the dose right this way than when using a brush.
The product is a bit too radical for most people.


MoneyWellSpent
Thats exactly where I held the shoe shog[1].gif
Not much happened though.

The other method involved a spoon and a blow torch. Then it involved a red spoon and shoe with a wet cloth wrapped around it.
(I exaggerate laugh.gif the spoon wasn't quite red hot.)

Actually they are Dark Oak and Walnut Country Calf.

 

Crat, thanks for the info.

 

I hope I never find the need to use this, but it's always better to be armed with the knowledge just in case.

post #4089 of 10720
dddrees
I hope you don't either! Don't wear them in the (salty) snow : )
Mine have the same make up as the ones you ordered. These will, I think, become my go-to boots.
post #4090 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Crat View Post

dddrees
I hope you don't either! Don't wear them in the (salty) snow : )
Mine have the same make up as the ones you ordered. These will, I think, become my go-to boots.

I hear you, great looking boots.

 

Like I said, I've been eying these for awhile.

 

That is ever since I saw them for the first time.

 

I think I'll use some of my other boots for more crappier weather.

post #4091 of 10720
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The other method involved a spoon and a blow torch. Then it involved a red spoon and shoe with a wet damp cloth wrapped around it.

I envision a cellar filled with dunk tanks, belt sanders, blow torches, and other instruments of torture, where you work on your shoes Crat.

It's no wonder your shoes produce such a great mirror shine, they are afraid not to. cold[1].gif
post #4092 of 10720
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Originally Posted by glenjay View Post

I envision a cellar filled with dunk tanks, belt sanders, blow torches, and other instruments of torture, where you work on your shoes Crat.

It's no wonder your shoes produce such a great mirror shine, they are afraid not to. cold[1].gif
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Reminded me of this (Click to show)
One of Crowley‘s hobbies is, rather unexpectedly for a demon, gardening. He has several plants in his London flat, which are “huge and green and glorious, with shiny, healthy, lustrous leaves” (240). They are “the only things in the flat [he) devote[s) any personal attention to”.

Crowley’s demonic side shows in the particular way he cultivates his plants, however. Like any mortal gardener, Crowley mists them with a “green plastic plant mister” once a week. He also talks to his plants — something he heard about “in the early seventies, on Radio Four” and thought to be “an excellent idea” — although he does not so much talk to his plants as he “put[s) the fear of God into them”; or “more precisely, the fear of Crowley”.

Every once in a while, Crowley picks a plant that is not growing too well and carries it around the flat to the other plants, telling them “‘Say goodbye to your friend. He just couldn’t cut it…’”. He then takes the plant out of the flat, and brings home “a large, empty flower pot” which he “leave[s) somewhere conspicuously around the flat”. Because of this, his plants are “the most luxurious, verdant, and beautiful in London” (241), but “also the most terrified”.


Also, I've never belt sanded my shoes, just used normal sandpaper.
post #4093 of 10720
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

I have a few questions for those of you that achieve a mirror shine on a regular basis (and I know that there are quite a few here):
  • How many layers would you expect to put on bench grade leather starting from scratch before you get a true mirror?
  • Do you consistently get a mirror shine in the same amount of time when starting from scratch?
  • Time-wise, when you take that little dot of polish and start swirling it around on the leather with the water droplets, how long do you do this before you breath on the leather and continue?
  • How much pressure do you use - the weight of your hand or lighter/heavier?


Sorry for all the questions - I find that I'm not getting consistent results and want to drill down on where my technique is going off. I don't do this on all my shoes but I'd like to be able to get a consistent result when I do.

Many thanks in advance.

1. It embarrasses me to say probably 100+ ultra thin coats shog[1].gif They are extremely thin.
2. Different shoes take differing amounts of time. High quality JL will come up quicker than standard C&J. It's all about those micro bumps in the leather.
3. Correction: from around 30 to 45 seconds.
4. I use normal (what's that) pressure at the beginning, getting lighter in pressure once I have the mirror. Upon deciding that I've 'arrived', I use a feather touch + much less hard wax.

Everyone seems to get results using their own method. No two ever alike it seems.

Hope that helps

Lear
post #4094 of 10720
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

uhoh.gif  This sounds scary to me.  Steam from an espresso machine is scalding hot (likely hot enough to kill bacteria).  It sure seems to me that this would be damaging to the leather fibers. 

Steam works well with wood to swell it and remove nicks and dents; I remember from my youth that some cobblers have ironed shoes with wax, to smooth out creases.

However, the structure of the leather is damaged under a crease and there are very little chances that the repair would hold more than one wear.

post #4095 of 10720
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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

Steam works well with wood to swell it and remove nicks and dents; I remember from my youth that some cobblers have ironed shoes with wax, to smooth out creases.

However, the structure of the leather is damaged under a crease and there are very little chances that the repair would hold more than one wear.

 

That seems logical to me as well. 

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