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post #3421 of 5746
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Originally Posted by Lear View Post


I have a wafer thin Mulberry document bag. Bought it many years ago, before they became fashionable. Believe the early stuff was all made in the UK. Anyway, a lot of their leather has a slightly pitted surface, into which RM Williams saddle dressing spreads evenly, but does tent to dry with whitish spots. Best solution has been for me to condition just once a year, during the hottest months. I leave the bag in direct sunlight by the window to warm up first. Same with the tin of dressing. Just use your common sense, old rags and lots of buffing. A day outside in really hot weather fully sets and cures it. Simple. Just be aware that my Mulberry has darkened/ patinated quite considerably since new. Must be down to the suns rays on the leather + RMW dressing, as the same conditioned area under the main flap is much lighter in colour.
No real reason as to why I use RMW dressing. Always have and probably always will. The only thing I don't use it on is RMW boots... go figure.
This probably isn't as much off-topic as might appear... same rules apply to conditioning your shoes, whatever your choice of product.
Lear

 

I bought a big container of RMW Leather Conditioner from the Manhattan RMW store 3-4 yrs ago. I really like it. I use Obenauf on work boots and other leather items that need weatherproofing but not on calfskin leather shoes and boots. For those items, the RMW conditioner seemed to work well, smell good and certainly hasn't "hurt" any of my calfskin footwear. That said, Saphir has taken the place of RMW's conditioner in many cases but the RMW product still has a place in my kit.

 

Like many of us, I've come to the conclusion that [generally speaking] the brand of product is less important than the methods employed (i.e., use conditioners/products in moderation, remove salt, dirt, etc. after each use, brush regularly and use conditioners/products in moderation). There are exceptions of course, but most quality products will do the job if the user knows what he is doing.

post #3422 of 5746
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 I've come to the conclusion that [generally speaking] the brand of product is less important than the methods employed

 

You would need to have tried an array of products to arrive at such a conclusion, do you have such experience?

post #3423 of 5746
Does anyone here condition the leather outer sole? I had never heard of doing this before but saw it being recommended by wolverine with what looks like Obenauf's LP. Is this something that People are suppose to be doing to leather out soles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dKav9_7X6U
post #3424 of 5746
I do; I give them a liberal amount of lexol conditioner and a thick layer of Obenauf's HDLP when I feel like it or if they have become wet multiple times. I'm not sure if it has any effect, but I've read that conditioned soles wear less than dry soles.
post #3425 of 5746
I have been trying the sole conditioner from Boot Black lately, and I can't say I notice much of a difference...
post #3426 of 5746
I think it has effect to a certain degree. After using my leather soles in the rain/snow they tend to get quite dry, and when the soles are dry the get porous which I would belive lead to quicker wear. However, the penetration effect of the conditioner may also be marginal, giving almost zero effect.
post #3427 of 5746
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Originally Posted by Christian B View Post

I think it has effect to a certain degree. After using my leather soles in the rain/snow they tend to get quite dry, and when the soles are dry the get porous which I would belive lead to quicker wear. However, the penetration effect of the conditioner may also be marginal, giving almost zero effect.
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Originally Posted by Christian B View Post

I do; I give them a liberal amount of lexol conditioner and a thick layer of Obenauf's HDLP when I feel like it or if they have become wet multiple times. I'm not sure if it has any effect, but I've read that conditioned soles wear less than dry soles.

Hmmm...so putting conditioner on soles sounds like it's still inconclusive on benefits for a lot of people? I guess I'll take a "well it can't hurt" approach then.
post #3428 of 5746
I find the probability that it helps a little higher than the probability that it hurts the sole, so I'll continue doing it as a part of my routine.
post #3429 of 5746
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Originally Posted by Christian B View Post

I find the probability that it helps a little higher than the probability that it hurts the sole, so I'll continue doing it as a part of my routine.


I feel the same but treat soles much less frequently. Dress shoes see HDLP a couple of times a year. That said, my shoes with JR Rendenbach soles wear like iron (mostly shell).

The one pair I tx'd w/Obenauf HDLP more often was my Wolverine 1K's. I'm still not 100% convinced if it had any significant impact.
post #3430 of 5746
I'm not much more frequent than that, maybe some hasty treatment of some soles with lexol if I feel like it an additional 2-3 times throughout the year.
post #3431 of 5746
I condition soles with mink oil, perhaps once or twice a year. I'm not certain the conditioning makes much difference, but would like to think the waterproofing does.

Burgol claims that their oil can double the life of the soles.

http://grunwald-true-style.com/Shoe-Care/Oil-for-Leather-Soles.html

They even cite testing by 'The German Leather Institute'. (whoever that might be).

In any case - leather soles are the most fragile when wet, so it seems that helping them repel moisture might be a good idea.
post #3432 of 5746
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I condition soles with mink oil, perhaps once or twice a year. I'm not certain the conditioning makes much difference, but would like to think the waterproofing does.
Burgol claims that their oil can double the life of the soles.
http://grunwald-true-style.com/Shoe-Care/Oil-for-Leather-Soles.html
They even cite testing by 'The German Leather Institute'. (whoever that might be).
In any case - leather soles are the most fragile when wet, so it seems that helping them repel moisture might be a good idea.

I twice made the mistake of wearing brand new shoes in light rain and the soles suffered from that. frown.gif
post #3433 of 5746
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Originally Posted by acousticfoodie View Post

Does anyone here condition the leather outer sole? I had never heard of doing this before but saw it being recommended by wolverine with what looks like Obenauf's LP. Is this something that People are suppose to be doing to leather out soles?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dKav9_7X6U

Where I live, there's often quite a bit of salt on sidewalks left over from recent snows. I'm still learning about shoe care, but I feel like a little AE's Conditioner Cleaner or something similar might restore some moisture to the soles. Perhaps following it a day later with some Obenauf's HDLP?
post #3434 of 5746
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

Where I live, there's often quite a bit of salt on sidewalks left over from recent snows. I'm still learning about shoe care, but I feel like a little AE's Conditioner Cleaner or something similar might restore some moisture to the soles. Perhaps following it a day later with some Obenauf's HDLP?

Hmmm I have both of these products as well. Patrick B says he puts HDLP on his dress shoe soles so I am inclined to do the same from now on!
post #3435 of 5746
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Originally Posted by acousticfoodie View Post


Hmmm I have both of these products as well. Patrick B says he puts HDLP on his dress shoe soles so I am inclined to do the same from now on!

 

IME leather soles don't require any conditioning through their natural lives. The use of products like mink oil, obenauf's etc will soften the soles and cause them to wear more quickly. 

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